1 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:05,900 for aliens - ghosts demons hatred from 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:09,450 shadow people to the outlandish tiny 3 00:00:15,730 --> 00:00:32,340 [Music] 4 00:00:37,990 --> 00:00:35,890 welcome welcome to my awesome Friday 5 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:38,000 evening you are listening to me Heidi 6 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:40,310 Hollis be Outlanders welcome to the show 7 00:00:46,210 --> 00:00:43,010 everybody get comfortable put your feet 8 00:00:52,390 --> 00:00:46,220 up put some popcorn in your hand 9 00:00:55,390 --> 00:00:52,400 in a nice soda and enjoy I have to tell 10 00:00:57,460 --> 00:00:55,400 you guys what this program is about this 11 00:00:59,860 --> 00:00:57,470 show is about bringing outlandish and 12 00:01:03,100 --> 00:00:59,870 interesting topics to the forefront from 13 00:01:05,370 --> 00:01:03,110 aliens angels ghosts demons holy 14 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:05,380 encounters shadow people to Bigfoot to 15 00:01:11,109 --> 00:01:08,180 the 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welcome you 72 00:03:52,510 --> 00:03:49,370 guys to call into the program with any 73 00:03:56,220 --> 00:03:52,520 comments or questions at one eight eight 74 00:03:59,590 --> 00:03:56,230 eight nine one nine 23:55 or go on skype 75 00:04:01,540 --> 00:03:59,600 find inception radio network MJ will 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:01,550 pass along your comments and questions 77 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:06,050 and oh yeah there's more sorry I got the 78 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:10,970 sniffles today allergies and you can go 79 00:04:17,890 --> 00:04:15,920 to I are in chat dot-com right there 80 00:04:21,190 --> 00:04:17,900 it's where you can listen to the show 81 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:21,200 live and pass your comments and 82 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:23,120 questions as well in the chat room and 83 00:04:27,460 --> 00:04:25,040 discuss things among yourselves if you 84 00:04:29,290 --> 00:04:27,470 want to pass a question to me put it in 85 00:04:32,350 --> 00:04:29,300 all caps and I tend to be able to pay 86 00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:32,360 better attention to that yeah so there's 87 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:34,430 a lot of cool ways I'm telling you you 88 00:04:39,730 --> 00:04:36,620 know I have been enjoying doing this 89 00:04:41,740 --> 00:04:39,740 show for some time now and I'm never 90 00:04:44,380 --> 00:04:41,750 bored and I hope you're never bored 91 00:04:47,140 --> 00:04:44,390 either and if you have any suggestions 92 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:47,150 for guest to come on this show 93 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:50,720 I am always open I am not picky swear I 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:52,970 swear well hold on hold on they can't be 95 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:55,370 okay nevermind yeah I'll just I'll just 96 00:04:59,499 --> 00:04:57,050 filter through them 97 00:05:02,529 --> 00:04:59,509 I don't know if you guys know this but 98 00:05:04,450 --> 00:05:02,539 on Tuesday night I have been co-hosting 99 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:04,460 the Kevin cook show for a long time as 100 00:05:09,249 --> 00:05:06,560 well so we talk on everything from 101 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:09,259 politics to the paranormal so be sure to 102 00:05:15,339 --> 00:05:11,810 tune in over there a p.m. Central 103 00:05:18,670 --> 00:05:15,349 Standard Time idea Eastern until it's an 104 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:18,680 hour and a half so we have fun over 105 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:21,830 there but sometimes I just like to wrap 106 00:05:25,899 --> 00:05:24,289 my hands around somebody's neck ain't 107 00:05:27,550 --> 00:05:25,909 gonna name names but it is called the 108 00:05:28,930 --> 00:05:27,560 Kevin kook show that's all I'm saying 109 00:05:35,860 --> 00:05:28,940 it's a big hit 110 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:35,870 I hope he's listening um you know I want 111 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:38,479 to get on to introducing my fantastic 112 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:39,889 guests for the evening 113 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:42,650 oh oh oh I gotta tell you guys be sure 114 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:46,400 to still keep your your lovely stories 115 00:05:51,309 --> 00:05:49,120 coming on in to the outlandish corner I 116 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:51,319 I've actually heard from several people 117 00:05:54,820 --> 00:05:53,449 who are like my favorite part is 118 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:54,830 outlandish corner you've been skipping 119 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:57,440 it lately I'm sorry I was trying to do 120 00:06:01,570 --> 00:05:59,690 some bigger interviews longer I was 121 00:06:03,249 --> 00:06:01,580 getting some demands for that and just 122 00:06:04,809 --> 00:06:03,259 kind of wanted to mix it up a little bit 123 00:06:07,930 --> 00:06:04,819 because I usually for the first 30 124 00:06:10,779 --> 00:06:07,940 minutes would answer and read off 125 00:06:12,459 --> 00:06:10,789 different people's emails or even invite 126 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:12,469 them to come on and and chat you know 127 00:06:16,779 --> 00:06:14,300 call in we just chat about what it is 128 00:06:19,450 --> 00:06:16,789 they're experiencing so please keep your 129 00:06:22,050 --> 00:06:19,460 emails coming just write me at dusk 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:22,060 outlander at gmail.com that's with addy 131 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:27,289 and yeah and I swear I I do get to these 132 00:06:31,029 --> 00:06:29,330 emails or if you find me on Facebook 133 00:06:33,159 --> 00:06:31,039 feel free to send me messages there I 134 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:33,169 will also answer and respond to that I 135 00:06:41,260 --> 00:06:37,400 will be doing an all e-mail and caller 136 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:41,270 show very very soon so alright getting 137 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:45,289 on to the introductions dr. Michael 138 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:48,289 Salah is an internationally recognized 139 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:50,210 scholar and international politics 140 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:52,400 conflict resolution and u.s. foreign 141 00:06:58,719 --> 00:06:54,650 policy he's taught at universities in 142 00:07:01,209 --> 00:06:58,729 the USA and Australia love oz he is more 143 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:01,219 popularly known as a pioneer in the 144 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:04,880 development of exile politics the study 145 00:07:10,570 --> 00:07:06,889 of the main actors institutions and 146 00:07:13,119 --> 00:07:10,580 political processes associated with 147 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:13,129 real life dr. Salah wrote the first 148 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:16,250 published book on Exopolitics in 2004 149 00:07:21,429 --> 00:07:19,150 and followed this with another examining 150 00:07:24,850 --> 00:07:21,439 Exopolitics and u.s. foreign policy in 151 00:07:28,179 --> 00:07:24,860 onine he authored galactic diplomacy in 152 00:07:31,990 --> 00:07:28,189 2013 and this was followed by Kennedy's 153 00:07:34,149 --> 00:07:32,000 last stand in 2013 which investigated 154 00:07:38,050 --> 00:07:34,159 the relationship between classified UFOs 155 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:38,060 and the Kennedy assassination and 2015 156 00:07:44,709 --> 00:07:41,840 he authored insiders reveal secret base 157 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:44,719 programs and extraterrestrial alliances 158 00:07:51,070 --> 00:07:48,319 in 2015 dr. Salle's latest book is the 159 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:51,080 US Navy's secret space program and 160 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:53,590 Nordic extraterrestrial alliance 161 00:08:01,180 --> 00:07:56,930 released March 2017 of this year his 162 00:08:03,369 --> 00:08:01,190 website is exile politics dot o RG 163 00:08:15,219 --> 00:08:03,379 everybody please give a round of 164 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:15,229 applause to dr. Michael Saleh yes Aloha 165 00:08:22,209 --> 00:08:17,330 to you you're in like the most beautiful 166 00:08:26,980 --> 00:08:22,219 state they say how's life over there I'm 167 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:26,990 sure it's a it's great to be able to get 168 00:08:32,199 --> 00:08:29,150 into the water here year round and of 169 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:32,209 course why he does live up to its 170 00:08:37,089 --> 00:08:34,610 reputation so I'm I'm very happy to be 171 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:37,099 living here oh you're bored to death 172 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:38,930 just come on don't don't make it sound 173 00:08:47,980 --> 00:08:44,240 so darn tempting okay gotta tease tease 174 00:08:50,019 --> 00:08:47,990 so my goodness this new book of yours it 175 00:08:51,850 --> 00:08:50,029 is it kind of goes hand in hand with 176 00:08:54,579 --> 00:08:51,860 that last book of yours secret space 177 00:08:58,210 --> 00:08:54,589 programs and now the Navy is in on it 178 00:09:01,870 --> 00:08:58,220 too my gosh well that's not your stuff 179 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:01,880 after after I wrote the first book there 180 00:09:06,660 --> 00:09:03,680 was a new whistleblower well actually 181 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:06,670 he's not a whistleblower he's more a 182 00:09:15,130 --> 00:09:11,290 ex-navy operative and has been working 183 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:15,140 with various aerospace companies for 184 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:18,860 decades and he came forward and he just 185 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:21,680 added much more information about the 186 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:24,490 Navy's role in this secret space 187 00:09:33,210 --> 00:09:28,570 program that has these large space 188 00:09:35,340 --> 00:09:33,220 battle groups out there and he just has 189 00:09:38,790 --> 00:09:35,350 a phenomenal amount of information and 190 00:09:41,490 --> 00:09:38,800 experience in terms of helping design 191 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:41,500 these and getting intelligence on what 192 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:44,050 is out there and that's and that's our 193 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:46,810 William Tompkins who's who's 94 - who's 194 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:52,690 94 or in made this year so he really is 195 00:09:57,269 --> 00:09:54,490 a wealth of knowledge and so I was very 196 00:09:59,220 --> 00:09:57,279 happy to be able to meet him and 197 00:10:02,430 --> 00:09:59,230 interview him and a lot of his 198 00:10:05,730 --> 00:10:02,440 information basically was what led to 199 00:10:07,970 --> 00:10:05,740 this second book on secret space 200 00:10:12,389 --> 00:10:07,980 programs that focuses on the Navy 201 00:10:14,460 --> 00:10:12,399 holy smokes so he's he's 94 so we're 202 00:10:18,180 --> 00:10:14,470 talking about this goes pretty far back 203 00:10:20,699 --> 00:10:18,190 then correct while he was there at in 204 00:10:23,070 --> 00:10:20,709 terms of the very beginning of how the 205 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:23,080 Navy got involved in all of this he 206 00:10:28,110 --> 00:10:25,529 talks about the Los Angeles air raid in 207 00:10:32,490 --> 00:10:28,120 1942 he was actually a witness he was 208 00:10:35,449 --> 00:10:32,500 living in Los Angeles a Long Beach the 209 00:10:38,970 --> 00:10:35,459 Long Beach area and he he witnessed the 210 00:10:43,470 --> 00:10:38,980 flying saucers that over flew Los 211 00:10:46,290 --> 00:10:43,480 Angeles and was basically covered at 212 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:46,300 length by the media because there was a 213 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:49,120 famous artillery barrage several 214 00:10:54,389 --> 00:10:50,770 thousand artillery shells were launched 215 00:10:57,350 --> 00:10:54,399 into the sky and and the next day 216 00:10:59,970 --> 00:10:57,360 basically the Navy and the army 217 00:11:03,750 --> 00:10:59,980 secretaries released a statement saying 218 00:11:06,090 --> 00:11:03,760 that well you know there was nothing up 219 00:11:08,370 --> 00:11:06,100 there or you know we don't know what it 220 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:08,380 was that was up there and you know 221 00:11:14,610 --> 00:11:09,910 that's it 222 00:11:17,340 --> 00:11:14,620 and but what we do know from some others 223 00:11:19,410 --> 00:11:17,350 is that in fact this was the beginning 224 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:19,420 of the flying saucer age for the United 225 00:11:25,530 --> 00:11:22,390 States because the the US actually 226 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:25,540 recovered two flying saucers from that 227 00:11:31,650 --> 00:11:28,930 1942 incident in February and that 228 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:31,660 basically set off a whole chain of 229 00:11:38,430 --> 00:11:35,170 events that culminated in the Navy 230 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:38,440 eventually developing 231 00:11:42,810 --> 00:11:40,510 based battlegroups you know based on the 232 00:11:45,540 --> 00:11:42,820 anti-gravity propulsion systems that 233 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:45,550 they found in these craft that had been 234 00:11:51,450 --> 00:11:48,130 recovered and also you know based on 235 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:51,460 what William Tompkins learned from the 236 00:11:56,670 --> 00:11:54,310 from Germany which at the time was 237 00:11:59,580 --> 00:11:56,680 developing flying saucer prototypes 238 00:12:01,560 --> 00:11:59,590 you know Tompkins was actually part of 239 00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:01,570 that as well you know he was he was 240 00:12:06,630 --> 00:12:03,820 serving during the Second World War he 241 00:12:08,220 --> 00:12:06,640 was based at Naval Air Station San Diego 242 00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:08,230 throughout the Second World War and he 243 00:12:14,460 --> 00:12:11,200 had a covert assignment to basically be 244 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:14,470 part of the briefings of Navy spies 245 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:17,650 embedded with through the german 246 00:12:22,530 --> 00:12:20,050 aerospace community who would report 247 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:22,540 back and reveal what it was the Germans 248 00:12:27,090 --> 00:12:24,490 were working on so you know from all of 249 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:27,100 that information the Navy was able to 250 00:12:31,970 --> 00:12:29,530 act on that and Bill Tompkins was was 251 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:31,980 part of it from the very beginning oh 252 00:12:37,830 --> 00:12:34,320 boy did you strike gold 253 00:12:40,050 --> 00:12:37,840 Wow that's pretty amazing I mean to have 254 00:12:42,090 --> 00:12:40,060 someone that was an absolute witness and 255 00:12:45,180 --> 00:12:42,100 knows that all of the beginnings that's 256 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:45,190 that's quite unheard of I I'm you know I 257 00:12:51,450 --> 00:12:49,090 have to tell you doctor it and as of 258 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:51,460 like the past couple of months I don't 259 00:12:55,740 --> 00:12:53,410 know what is going on out there in the 260 00:12:58,170 --> 00:12:55,750 world but there's a lot of people 261 00:13:00,960 --> 00:12:58,180 stepping forward talking about what 262 00:13:04,430 --> 00:13:00,970 they've witnessed and what they know and 263 00:13:07,770 --> 00:13:04,440 I'm talking about I have had four 264 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:07,780 personally tell me stories that have 265 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:10,240 blown my mind that they have not shared 266 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:13,450 out there in the world just yet I what 267 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:15,850 is happening I mean it is there like an 268 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:17,860 expiration date on when people are 269 00:13:22,890 --> 00:13:20,050 supposed to disclose I mean do they sign 270 00:13:26,910 --> 00:13:22,900 a contract that says in the year 2017 271 00:13:28,950 --> 00:13:26,920 spill your guts I mean what is this well 272 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:28,960 you know I think it really is a 273 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:31,570 reflection of the mass consciousness 274 00:13:38,370 --> 00:13:36,130 yeah people at a collective level I 275 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:38,380 think that at an unconscious level 276 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:40,360 they're deciding that they're ready for 277 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:42,210 this that they're ready to move into 278 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:45,670 this kind of era of open disclosure you 279 00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:47,770 know cuz people often say well you know 280 00:13:51,930 --> 00:13:49,870 what's responsible for the cover-up and 281 00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:51,940 you know it's the Illuminati it's the 282 00:13:54,690 --> 00:13:52,300 big 283 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:54,700 oil companies it's the national security 284 00:14:00,180 --> 00:13:57,130 system and you know that's all true but 285 00:14:03,180 --> 00:14:00,190 you know ultimately I feel as though you 286 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:03,190 know people like Carl Jung and others 287 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:06,370 that study the collective consciousness 288 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:08,650 of humanity that really it's the 289 00:14:13,230 --> 00:14:10,240 collective consciousness that drives 290 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:13,240 global events and at an unconscious 291 00:14:18,810 --> 00:14:16,210 level I think up until recently people I 292 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:18,820 don't think that they were really ready 293 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:21,970 for the magnitude of all of this but now 294 00:14:25,170 --> 00:14:23,710 they are and I think especially the 295 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:25,180 younger generation does that's something 296 00:14:29,310 --> 00:14:27,490 that's really impressed me is just how 297 00:14:31,290 --> 00:14:29,320 the younger generation you know they're 298 00:14:33,330 --> 00:14:31,300 ready for this they're in dive into this 299 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:33,340 big time and you know and they 300 00:14:36,350 --> 00:14:35,290 intuitively know this information is 301 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:36,360 real they're having their own 302 00:14:41,940 --> 00:14:39,610 experiences they're seeing orbs you know 303 00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:41,950 they listen to whistleblowers contact DS 304 00:14:45,810 --> 00:14:43,750 and they get it right away 305 00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:45,820 where's the older generation or you know 306 00:14:51,420 --> 00:14:48,160 they're into the nuts and bolts side you 307 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:51,430 know they're just like well you know a 308 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:53,380 lot of them kind of like I've been 309 00:14:57,270 --> 00:14:55,210 struggling with this for decades but the 310 00:14:59,460 --> 00:14:57,280 younger generation they're they're ready 311 00:15:02,460 --> 00:14:59,470 for it and I think that's what's driving 312 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:02,470 the process forward and so I think we're 313 00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:04,810 just getting closer and closer to all of 314 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:07,390 this being revealed well you know one of 315 00:15:14,370 --> 00:15:10,720 the folks that is aware of the goings on 316 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:14,380 in the military and whatnot they 317 00:15:18,770 --> 00:15:16,450 essentially said you know a lot of us 318 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:18,780 are getting tired of the secrecy and 319 00:15:25,770 --> 00:15:22,570 young and old and they feel that it is 320 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:25,780 time for this to come forward and 321 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:27,670 because I'm like wow how can you speak 322 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:29,830 on this and not be afraid for your life 323 00:15:35,850 --> 00:15:31,600 that the government will come and you 324 00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:35,860 know smush you or something in and this 325 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:38,110 person was very much like you know 326 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:40,090 there's others that support and me 327 00:15:44,430 --> 00:15:42,130 stepping forward I was like well cool 328 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:44,440 you know it's like it's fascinating to 329 00:15:49,050 --> 00:15:46,570 me it's a I mean just really shocking 330 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:49,060 yeah I sometimes wonder there's a target 331 00:15:53,070 --> 00:15:50,650 painted on my back like talk to me about 332 00:15:58,140 --> 00:15:53,080 weird stuff I mean well that it is never 333 00:15:59,760 --> 00:15:58,150 mind but it's it just blows my mind the 334 00:16:04,350 --> 00:15:59,770 things that are coming forward out of 335 00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:04,360 the most unexpected places I mean my job 336 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:05,230 I'm 337 00:16:11,730 --> 00:16:09,490 what's going on here it's just it just 338 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:11,740 rocks my world every time I I come 339 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:13,290 across one of these spontaneous 340 00:16:21,620 --> 00:16:16,930 revelations and got one yesterday I'm 341 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:21,630 just thrown and blown away but um so 342 00:16:26,970 --> 00:16:24,970 I've always said you know there oh the 343 00:16:29,460 --> 00:16:26,980 government feels all the people couldn't 344 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:29,470 handle the truth and what's going on but 345 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:31,510 who runs the government people I hope 346 00:16:36,210 --> 00:16:34,270 and they're handling it just fine so I'm 347 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:36,220 not surprised that any generation could 348 00:16:45,210 --> 00:16:39,600 handle this these bits of information so 349 00:16:47,490 --> 00:16:45,220 in speaking to mr. Tompkins and how 350 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:47,500 things began I mean I'm just darn 351 00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:49,690 curious how they handled it in the 352 00:16:53,790 --> 00:16:51,820 beginning were they all freaked out and 353 00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:53,800 fumbling and you know wanting to shoot 354 00:16:58,350 --> 00:16:55,420 at everything that moved 355 00:17:03,900 --> 00:16:58,360 I mean or where they rather I don't know 356 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:03,910 organized they were there was a lot of 357 00:17:11,190 --> 00:17:08,890 disbelief over how advanced Nazi Germany 358 00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:11,200 had gotten in the study of these flying 359 00:17:17,210 --> 00:17:13,740 saucer craft because basically 360 00:17:21,380 --> 00:17:17,220 throughout the 1920s and the 1930s 361 00:17:24,270 --> 00:17:21,390 Germany was really you know pursuing 362 00:17:28,140 --> 00:17:24,280 developing flying saucer technologies 363 00:17:30,690 --> 00:17:28,150 based on you know psychic communications 364 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:30,700 you know this was something that you 365 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:33,520 know Western scientists and national 366 00:17:38,010 --> 00:17:35,410 security cell establishments they just 367 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:38,020 kind of dismissed that idea but in 368 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:39,670 Germany I mean they took it very 369 00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:41,650 seriously there were a lot of top German 370 00:17:47,670 --> 00:17:44,260 scientists that understood that there 371 00:17:50,610 --> 00:17:47,680 was an in an a really close connection 372 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:50,620 between consciousness and advanced 373 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:53,050 technologies and the Germans began 374 00:17:59,130 --> 00:17:55,930 studying this linkage pretty early on 375 00:18:01,620 --> 00:17:59,140 and so by the 1940s 376 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:01,630 you know when the after the war began 377 00:18:06,090 --> 00:18:04,570 and and and the u.s. recovered its first 378 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:06,100 flying saucers from the Los Angeles 379 00:18:10,980 --> 00:18:08,050 craft and then they started getting 380 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:10,990 intelligence reports from these Navy 381 00:18:16,770 --> 00:18:13,150 spies that had embedded themselves in 382 00:18:18,540 --> 00:18:16,780 the top german aerospace companies and 383 00:18:20,670 --> 00:18:18,550 they're getting these a report 384 00:18:22,860 --> 00:18:20,680 these fantastic reports about the kind 385 00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:22,870 of technologies that the Germans had 386 00:18:29,060 --> 00:18:25,960 developed and their communications and 387 00:18:31,530 --> 00:18:29,070 their dealings with different you know 388 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:31,540 extraterrestrial civilizations and at 389 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:35,110 the beginning the the top brass in the 390 00:18:40,890 --> 00:18:38,190 Navy really had difficulty establishing 391 00:18:43,410 --> 00:18:40,900 this they they thought it was a lot of 392 00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:43,420 disinformation and I think it was only 393 00:18:52,620 --> 00:18:49,030 in 1946-47 with operation Highjump when 394 00:18:55,380 --> 00:18:52,630 the Navy sent a flotilla down to 395 00:18:58,770 --> 00:18:55,390 Antarctica to investigate these rumors 396 00:19:00,750 --> 00:18:58,780 of Nazi Germany establishing secret 397 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:00,760 bases under Antarctica with these 398 00:19:05,490 --> 00:19:03,370 advanced flying saucer craft that the 399 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:05,500 Navy finally had its you know 400 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:07,450 come-to-jesus moment where it was like 401 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:10,570 wow this stuff is real we had no idea 402 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:13,690 and so they then you know they went into 403 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:15,910 it you know big time then in trying to 404 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:17,650 understand what was really going on 405 00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:19,750 because up until that time you know 406 00:19:25,020 --> 00:19:21,670 there were a lot of rumors a lot of kind 407 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:25,030 of espionage reports and you know craft 408 00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:27,610 being sighted here and and you know and 409 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:30,070 kind of prototypes being being recovered 410 00:19:35,490 --> 00:19:32,470 in Germany and so forth but when they 411 00:19:38,190 --> 00:19:35,500 went down to Antarctica and saw these 412 00:19:40,140 --> 00:19:38,200 operational craft that the Germans had 413 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:40,150 built down there and that these were 414 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:42,370 using directed-energy weapons and that 415 00:19:47,970 --> 00:19:45,280 they could fly at hypersonic speeds from 416 00:19:50,610 --> 00:19:47,980 pole to pole like Admiral Byrd said you 417 00:19:51,780 --> 00:19:50,620 know like the the Navy people just 418 00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:51,790 really were shocked 419 00:19:59,610 --> 00:19:55,390 and and since that time they've been 420 00:20:02,220 --> 00:19:59,620 playing catch-up what seems so you know 421 00:20:05,550 --> 00:20:02,230 there's been people who have witnessed 422 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:05,560 the government still toying with 423 00:20:12,570 --> 00:20:08,770 different crafts I mean way past the 40s 424 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:12,580 and I can't help but to think that they 425 00:20:20,730 --> 00:20:16,930 are still how can I stay car jacking 426 00:20:22,530 --> 00:20:20,740 UFOs whenever they can the latest models 427 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:22,540 and still trying to figure them out I 428 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:26,050 mean is that a possibility because some 429 00:20:29,550 --> 00:20:27,760 of the witnesses are like oh hey I saw 430 00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:29,560 them testing something and they weren't 431 00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:31,540 getting it right and 432 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:35,380 it wasn't way back when you know well 433 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:37,030 you'd be interesting to hear what the 434 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:40,150 witnesses had to say I know that it took 435 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:42,790 them a long time to kind of like really 436 00:20:49,170 --> 00:20:44,650 perfect these technologies I think it 437 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:49,180 was only in the 1970s and 80s that you 438 00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:51,250 know in the Navy in particular and and 439 00:20:56,010 --> 00:20:53,400 the Air Force were able to develop 440 00:20:59,010 --> 00:20:56,020 operational flying saucer craft of their 441 00:21:02,940 --> 00:20:59,020 own that were able to travel you know to 442 00:21:04,830 --> 00:21:02,950 the moon to Mars and elsewhere because 443 00:21:07,470 --> 00:21:04,840 the Germans did this in the 40s but it 444 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:07,480 took the u.s. you know an extra two or 445 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:09,730 three decades to catch up to what the 446 00:21:14,570 --> 00:21:11,170 Germans are done and of course the 447 00:21:17,130 --> 00:21:14,580 Germans you know they continued to 448 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:17,140 develop their their technologies we're 449 00:21:24,570 --> 00:21:22,090 now you know a lot of what this secret 450 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:24,580 German program did out of Antarctica 451 00:21:29,070 --> 00:21:27,130 it's almost indistinguishable from an 452 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:29,080 extraterrestrial civilization you know 453 00:21:36,570 --> 00:21:31,720 we you know because they've become so 454 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:36,580 advanced that really you know you really 455 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:38,110 can't tell the difference between them 456 00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:39,250 and an extraterrestrial technology 457 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:41,860 whereas in the case of you know the Air 458 00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,230 Force and the Navy and the Russian space 459 00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:46,720 program I know the Chinese are playing 460 00:21:51,150 --> 00:21:49,600 catch-up as well the Brits and the 461 00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:51,160 Australians and the Canadians are also 462 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:53,080 working closely with the US you know 463 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:55,060 they're still developing things they 464 00:22:00,780 --> 00:21:57,850 still you know getting that you know 465 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:00,790 doing testing of you know new 466 00:22:06,990 --> 00:22:04,840 generations of spacecraft but yeah it's 467 00:22:10,860 --> 00:22:07,000 just a constant process of developing 468 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:10,870 newer and more powerful technologies but 469 00:22:15,690 --> 00:22:13,510 but I know I know you know thanks from 470 00:22:17,790 --> 00:22:15,700 what William Thompkins has said and 471 00:22:19,710 --> 00:22:17,800 others like Corey Goode have said and 472 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:19,720 there been a few other whistleblowers 473 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:22,930 that essentially since the late 70s 474 00:22:29,940 --> 00:22:27,010 early 1980s the the US Navy has 475 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:29,950 operational battle groups in space so 476 00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:32,080 we're talking like aircraft battle 477 00:22:37,170 --> 00:22:35,260 groups aircraft carrier type battle 478 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:37,180 groups you know with the cruiser at 479 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:39,120 aircraft carrier destroyers minesweepers 480 00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:41,530 escorts and all of that that the Navy 481 00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:44,560 has something equivalent to that in deep 482 00:22:46,830 --> 00:22:45,340 space 483 00:22:49,289 --> 00:22:46,840 and that they actually have eight of 484 00:22:54,899 --> 00:22:49,299 these things eight space battle groups 485 00:22:59,639 --> 00:22:54,909 that operational oh I I believe it I 486 00:23:01,980 --> 00:22:59,649 just came across oh let me see space 487 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:01,990 wars is an article space war is why the 488 00:23:09,690 --> 00:23:04,809 Air Force and Navy will fight for 489 00:23:12,450 --> 00:23:09,700 control of the space Corp as if they are 490 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,460 trying to develop you know we've got the 491 00:23:19,499 --> 00:23:14,320 Navy we got the Air Force but they want 492 00:23:22,289 --> 00:23:19,509 to have a space force as well and like 493 00:23:24,779 --> 00:23:22,299 oh you guys are almost making it 494 00:23:29,749 --> 00:23:24,789 official that this is going to be so 495 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:29,759 necessary it is already going on it's 496 00:23:36,060 --> 00:23:32,769 nothing it's not a big secret I I don't 497 00:23:38,489 --> 00:23:36,070 feel anymore but our government this is 498 00:23:41,549 --> 00:23:38,499 what kills me though - it's like here - 499 00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:41,559 China Russia there are no good friends 500 00:23:46,919 --> 00:23:45,039 of ours how are we and they able to keep 501 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:46,929 these things under wraps 502 00:23:52,109 --> 00:23:49,929 where it's not quite released out to the 503 00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:52,119 public I mean how are we able to keep 504 00:24:00,289 --> 00:23:55,269 that in agreement to button our lips on 505 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:00,299 that well you know these major nations 506 00:24:07,259 --> 00:24:05,049 they able to make deals behind the 507 00:24:08,730 --> 00:24:07,269 scenes to share advanced technologies 508 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:08,740 because that's one of the things that 509 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:11,289 all of the major nations you know are 510 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:13,330 desperately wanting is you know what's 511 00:24:17,940 --> 00:24:16,450 the latest and best technology and you 512 00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:17,950 know and they're prepared to make deals 513 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:19,960 behind the scenes to get access to that 514 00:24:25,859 --> 00:24:22,570 so you know from the very beginning the 515 00:24:27,779 --> 00:24:25,869 United States and the Soviet Union you 516 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:27,789 know they they got their hands on some 517 00:24:32,340 --> 00:24:30,340 of the most advanced technologies but it 518 00:24:34,830 --> 00:24:32,350 was the United States that made deals 519 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:34,840 with these German with this German 520 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:37,690 breakaway colony in Antarctica so the 521 00:24:43,259 --> 00:24:40,720 United States got the best technologies 522 00:24:45,899 --> 00:24:43,269 out of the you know as a result of that 523 00:24:47,789 --> 00:24:45,909 of those deals and so the Russians then 524 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,799 made deals with the US because it was 525 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:49,600 trickled down you know they were hoping 526 00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,129 that they'd get something from the u.s. 527 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:53,679 end and and then the Chinese gonna come 528 00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:55,570 in and do the same thing because there's 529 00:24:59,100 --> 00:24:57,940 because there's no way you know that 530 00:25:02,700 --> 00:24:59,110 major nations 531 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:02,710 like you know Russia or or China ever 532 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,380 gonna get in getting to sort of a 533 00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:07,600 military conflict with the country like 534 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:09,940 the United States which has all of these 535 00:25:15,810 --> 00:25:12,850 incredibly sophisticated covert 536 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:15,820 technologies with with space 537 00:25:21,390 --> 00:25:18,460 capabilities where essentially from deep 538 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:21,400 space they could obliterate you know the 539 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:23,530 kind of industrial manufacturing and 540 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:25,690 population centers of other countries 541 00:25:30,750 --> 00:25:28,390 without using nuclear weapons you know 542 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:30,760 this is kind of like really advanced 543 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:34,720 space technologies that they have so 544 00:25:40,770 --> 00:25:38,890 okay so you said early 80s that was when 545 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:40,780 they finally developed something that 546 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:44,770 was spaceworthy so where are they gone 547 00:25:50,159 --> 00:25:47,530 what how far have they gone I I'm I'm 548 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:50,169 dying to know because it's a you know 549 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:52,770 people have been catching stuff on their 550 00:25:57,570 --> 00:25:55,450 personal telescopes for a very long time 551 00:26:00,900 --> 00:25:57,580 and they're like hey that shouldn't be 552 00:26:02,909 --> 00:26:00,910 there what's that doing so how far how 553 00:26:06,750 --> 00:26:02,919 far are these things going and where are 554 00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:06,760 they settled at sure well you know I 555 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:09,160 cover this kind of like at length in the 556 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:11,590 in the the Navy secret space program 557 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:14,290 book but basically in a nutshell you 558 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:15,790 know we need as far as the u.s. is 559 00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:17,890 concerned we need to think of you know 560 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:20,830 the Air Force with the intelligence 561 00:26:24,270 --> 00:26:22,330 community the National Reconnaissance 562 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:24,280 Office the Defense Intelligence Agency 563 00:26:34,860 --> 00:26:29,410 NSA what what they did was that you know 564 00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:34,870 they'd be they began in the 1970s 60s 565 00:26:42,419 --> 00:26:39,400 and 70s in deploying kind of stealth 566 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:42,429 space stations around the earth so these 567 00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:44,650 space stations there are at least two of 568 00:26:51,330 --> 00:26:47,950 them they're deployed around 500 miles 569 00:26:55,230 --> 00:26:51,340 in orbit and basically they're being 570 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:55,240 there since the early 70s and you know 571 00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:57,450 they're there to kind of like perform a 572 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:00,880 kind of surveillance system you know not 573 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:04,210 only of the planet Earth but also of the 574 00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:07,510 space environment near the earth and so 575 00:27:12,659 --> 00:27:10,540 the Air Force has these US space 576 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:12,669 stations and also 577 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:15,970 some anti-gravity craft and hypersonic 578 00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:21,369 vehicles like the Aurora ssr74 that is 579 00:27:29,090 --> 00:27:24,940 able to service these space stations and 580 00:27:31,979 --> 00:27:29,100 also any gravity vehicles like the tr-3b 581 00:27:34,919 --> 00:27:31,989 that is able to do kind of like travel - 582 00:27:38,249 --> 00:27:34,929 you know distances like travel from here 583 00:27:40,830 --> 00:27:38,259 to the moon and also capable of doing 584 00:27:43,019 --> 00:27:40,840 some long-distance flights like to Mars 585 00:27:44,970 --> 00:27:43,029 but that's about it as far as the Air 586 00:27:47,609 --> 00:27:44,980 Force is concerned and the Air Force is 587 00:27:50,099 --> 00:27:47,619 aware of a basis on Mars 588 00:27:55,649 --> 00:27:50,109 the Navy program is much more 589 00:27:58,289 --> 00:27:55,659 sophisticated just just as yeah it's as 590 00:28:00,930 --> 00:27:58,299 far ahead of the of the Air Force 591 00:28:02,909 --> 00:28:00,940 program as the Air Force program is 592 00:28:04,169 --> 00:28:02,919 ahead of the NASA program just that 593 00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:04,179 gives you kind of an idea of 594 00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:11,279 Air Force versus Navy guys you know that 595 00:28:20,909 --> 00:28:18,460 right yeah well when the Air Force guys 596 00:28:23,609 --> 00:28:20,919 found out about this that there was this 597 00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:23,619 kind of Navy space program I mean they 598 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:25,960 were very angry because they you know 599 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:28,330 that they they thought that they were 600 00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:31,090 the the expression I was told was that 601 00:28:38,249 --> 00:28:33,419 they thought that they were their quote 602 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:38,259 tip of the tip of the spear and yeah and 603 00:28:46,769 --> 00:28:39,730 now they find out that they're being 604 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:46,779 Coast Guard they don't like that because 605 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:48,070 they really thought they had the best 606 00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:51,340 stuff but the Navy has these battle 607 00:28:58,590 --> 00:28:54,580 groups that deploys in deep space and 608 00:29:00,779 --> 00:28:58,600 they're able to go to the outer reaches 609 00:29:03,090 --> 00:29:00,789 of our solar system that that's where 610 00:29:06,690 --> 00:29:03,100 they regularly deployed throughout our 611 00:29:09,690 --> 00:29:06,700 solar system actually into the the 612 00:29:11,879 --> 00:29:09,700 Cooper belt which is well beyond the 613 00:29:15,149 --> 00:29:11,889 orbit of Neptune and that they have some 614 00:29:17,609 --> 00:29:15,159 bases out there in the Cooper belt and 615 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:17,619 and so you know that the Navy space 616 00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:22,480 program has a much broader space of 617 00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:26,500 operations in terms of operating through 618 00:29:30,450 --> 00:29:28,840 our solar system and so they're you know 619 00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:30,460 they're way ahead of anything that the 620 00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:33,039 Air Force has so you know for the Air 621 00:29:38,909 --> 00:29:36,070 Force guys they they really having 622 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:38,919 trouble accepting this information that 623 00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:40,990 the Navy has this program but but but 624 00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:44,320 they do and you know the Navy has always 625 00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:47,110 been much better at keeping secrets you 626 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:49,240 know anyone can confirm this you know 627 00:29:56,490 --> 00:29:51,700 you you do a Google search on virtually 628 00:29:58,049 --> 00:29:56,500 any forced our efforts general and 629 00:29:59,610 --> 00:29:58,059 you'll find the big you know you'll find 630 00:30:01,799 --> 00:29:59,620 lots of biographies the Air Force 631 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:01,809 typically has biography pages lots of 632 00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:10,450 information you try new that we've got 633 00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:11,980 to get to our break you guys you're 634 00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:13,030 listening to me how do you how's the 635 00:30:21,539 --> 00:30:19,770 welcome back everybody you're listening 636 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:21,549 to me Heidi house the Outlander 637 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:23,530 remembering always if it's weird we're 638 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:25,750 here we're giving you advice and insight 639 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:28,570 on outlandish topics and I have a doctor 640 00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:31,110 Michael Salah speaking on Exopolitics 641 00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:36,820 way exile politic way out there we're 642 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:38,980 talking about the Navy and their 643 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:43,210 involvement with a very very secret 644 00:30:47,390 --> 00:30:45,370 space program everybody's always assumed 645 00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:47,400 you know this is interesting doc 646 00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:50,380 everybody's always assumed that the Air 647 00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:52,720 Force has been behind absolutely 648 00:30:58,500 --> 00:30:55,750 everything even the mylabs you know I've 649 00:31:01,500 --> 00:30:58,510 had some and they wear a white shirt and 650 00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:01,510 a navy blue colored tie and it's like oh 651 00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,440 that is so airforce now we're getting 652 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:08,320 this this different insight that it's 653 00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:12,130 it's the Navy so I mean I'm surprised do 654 00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:14,260 you think I mean are there they are they 655 00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,220 launching these special craft that 656 00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:20,559 they've happened to develop from reverse 657 00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:22,720 engineering UFOs are they launching them 658 00:31:28,350 --> 00:31:26,260 off from Navy ships a lot oftentimes I 659 00:31:30,539 --> 00:31:28,360 mean that they started to I mean to be 660 00:31:33,149 --> 00:31:30,549 out of prying eyes of the public or you 661 00:31:36,810 --> 00:31:33,159 know what was this also an incentive to 662 00:31:39,630 --> 00:31:36,820 expand the Navy program you know well 663 00:31:40,350 --> 00:31:39,640 then the Navy you know it's a it's a 664 00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:40,360 much 665 00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:43,030 the service than the Air Force and the 666 00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:45,880 Navy operates in all the spheres that 667 00:31:51,390 --> 00:31:48,070 operates in the oceans or you know 668 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:51,400 operates on land the Marines in the air 669 00:31:56,820 --> 00:31:54,250 it's got its its air we you're listening 670 00:31:57,539 --> 00:31:56,830 to love advice with LeAnn caller you're 671 00:31:59,460 --> 00:31:57,549 on the air 672 00:32:02,280 --> 00:31:59,470 hi LeeAnn longtime listener first-time 673 00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:02,290 caller why in your professional opinion 674 00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:04,630 do you never take my calls off the air 675 00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:05,679 is this Carl 676 00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:08,350 yep it's Carl we had a few dates 677 00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:11,110 everything was great I thought well you 678 00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:14,140 know when you switch to Geico you could 679 00:32:18,750 --> 00:32:15,790 save a lot of money on car insurance 680 00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:18,760 okay awesome you should call them I will 681 00:32:23,490 --> 00:32:21,070 Geico because saving 15% or more on car 682 00:32:27,570 --> 00:32:23,500 insurance is always a great answer Kings 683 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:27,580 operates under the oceans it has kind of 684 00:32:33,299 --> 00:32:30,760 underground bases for you know for its 685 00:32:36,530 --> 00:32:33,309 submarines to go into so the Navy has 686 00:32:38,820 --> 00:32:36,540 the most experience it operates 687 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:38,830 throughout the planet all over the 688 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:39,280 planet 689 00:32:45,860 --> 00:32:42,250 it's you know using the oceans it has it 690 00:32:49,289 --> 00:32:45,870 can go anywhere and and so it's able to 691 00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:49,299 do things in much more secrecy than than 692 00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:51,580 the airforce and from the very beginning 693 00:32:57,030 --> 00:32:54,700 you know the way in which the public was 694 00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:57,040 convinced into thinking that the Air 695 00:33:03,450 --> 00:32:59,679 Force was the one that was in charge of 696 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,460 the UFO phenomenon and that it's the Air 697 00:33:07,409 --> 00:33:05,200 Force we need to look to if we want to 698 00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:07,419 get answers that was pure disinformation 699 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:10,030 from the very beginning the Air Force 700 00:33:16,409 --> 00:33:14,169 you know especially 1947-1948 when they 701 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:16,419 launched the first investigations 702 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:19,390 project sign and then project grudge and 703 00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:22,330 then project Bluebook that became you 704 00:33:27,450 --> 00:33:25,990 know that became very famous in 1952 and 705 00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:27,460 that lasted to 1969 706 00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:30,910 you know that was really a ploy to get 707 00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:33,280 the public's attention away from the 708 00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:36,640 Navy and on to the Air Force and just 709 00:33:40,830 --> 00:33:38,980 focus on the Air Force's having the 710 00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:40,840 answers to this phenomena but the Air 711 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Force never really had all the answers 712 00:33:48,030 --> 00:33:45,250 to it at all because the Navy was the 713 00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:48,040 one that you know during the Second 714 00:33:51,330 --> 00:33:49,720 World War it was the one that was 715 00:33:53,910 --> 00:33:51,340 getting all of the intelligence on what 716 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:53,920 the or see when he 717 00:33:59,730 --> 00:33:56,290 don't it was it had its own secret 718 00:34:03,230 --> 00:33:59,740 facilities for reverse engineering craft 719 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:03,240 it it was actually working with 720 00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:05,530 different extraterrestrial groups this 721 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:07,510 is something that William Tompkins has 722 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:11,770 pointed out that the Navy was working 723 00:34:18,110 --> 00:34:15,130 with some leading aerospace companies 724 00:34:20,669 --> 00:34:18,120 where extraterrestrials had secretly 725 00:34:23,130 --> 00:34:20,679 infiltrated and were helping the 726 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:23,140 engineers and the architects for these 727 00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:25,990 companies come up with the designs for 728 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:28,720 these a future space battle groups so 729 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:32,770 the Navy had this kind of relationship a 730 00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:35,890 cooperative relationship with a kind of 731 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:38,350 more positive group of extraterrestrials 732 00:34:42,899 --> 00:34:41,050 that would better human looking people 733 00:34:44,730 --> 00:34:42,909 often refer to them as Nordics but 734 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:44,740 they're not necessarily Scandinavian 735 00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:46,450 looking they're just you know human 736 00:34:51,210 --> 00:34:49,060 looking and and that the Navy has been 737 00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:51,220 working with these people for a long 738 00:34:56,370 --> 00:34:54,520 long time and and for example you know 739 00:34:59,580 --> 00:34:56,380 you could have an aircraft carrier out 740 00:35:01,890 --> 00:34:59,590 there with a battle group and an admiral 741 00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:01,900 running the the battle group and you can 742 00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:04,180 have one of these Nordic flying saucers 743 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:06,790 landing on the aircraft carrier and and 744 00:35:13,770 --> 00:35:09,490 having a kind of diplomatic exchange 745 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,780 with Navy top Navy officials without you 746 00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:15,520 know in total secrecy because in 747 00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:18,400 aircraft carrier can be anywhere in the 748 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:21,160 ocean so the Navy has always been the 749 00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:23,170 the military institution in the United 750 00:35:27,810 --> 00:35:25,990 States that is known the most about all 751 00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:27,820 of these topics extraterrestrial life 752 00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:31,720 you know Nazi Nazi any gravity programs 753 00:35:40,290 --> 00:35:36,670 and advanced spacecraft using these kind 754 00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:40,300 of exotic propulsion systems goodness 755 00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:44,740 well you know I get it why we would have 756 00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:47,080 agreements and negotiate with more 757 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:49,870 advanced beings such as as these Nordic 758 00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:52,630 types but what's their interest in us 759 00:35:57,150 --> 00:35:54,880 but what's the trade-off I mean what do 760 00:36:01,410 --> 00:35:57,160 we really have to offer that would be 761 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:01,420 equivalent to us advancing so far well 762 00:36:07,350 --> 00:36:04,030 you know based on on all the research I 763 00:36:11,660 --> 00:36:07,360 have extraterrestrials 764 00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:11,670 basically have been genetically 765 00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:15,070 experimenting on surface humanity for up 766 00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:18,040 to five hundred thousand years so you 767 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:20,950 know there is not a time in our human 768 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:22,890 history where we can say 769 00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:25,090 extraterrestrials were not involved with 770 00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:28,300 us in some way whether it's through 771 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:30,550 genetic engineering whether it's through 772 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:33,130 helping build a civilization whether 773 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:35,310 it's through providing kind of like a 774 00:36:42,510 --> 00:36:38,970 kind of inspiration for religious texts 775 00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:42,520 that is part of our history and that 776 00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:44,680 there are different groups different 777 00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:46,180 groups of extraterrestrials that have 778 00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:48,340 been doing this that not all the 779 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:50,020 extra-terrestrial groups see on the same 780 00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:52,240 pay are on the same page when it comes 781 00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:54,700 to the future of humanity you know some 782 00:36:59,820 --> 00:36:56,920 groups see us as kind of like a very 783 00:37:02,460 --> 00:36:59,830 primitive aggressive savage species that 784 00:37:04,590 --> 00:37:02,470 needs to be controlled you know we need 785 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:04,600 to have a tight leash over us whether 786 00:37:08,910 --> 00:37:06,970 we're whereas other groups say that well 787 00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:08,920 you know humanity has the spark of God 788 00:37:14,430 --> 00:37:11,230 within them they're capable of following 789 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:14,440 their kind of inner divine guidance so 790 00:37:19,470 --> 00:37:16,570 we need to let them give them space that 791 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,480 they can kind of like get to follow that 792 00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:21,760 kind of inner light and and develop a 793 00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:24,790 culture and a civilization which is more 794 00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:27,760 reflective of their true potential as a 795 00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:29,590 species so you know you have 796 00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:32,920 diametrically opposite perspectives on 797 00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:36,190 our on our on us as a civilization by 798 00:37:40,290 --> 00:37:38,740 different extraterrestrial groups so it 799 00:37:41,820 --> 00:37:40,300 all depends on you know which 800 00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:41,830 extraterrestrial group has more 801 00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:45,790 influence and which organization is more 802 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:48,550 responsive to them so I think for 803 00:37:55,380 --> 00:37:51,970 example you know the Air Force has been 804 00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:55,390 working much more with a kind of 805 00:38:00,450 --> 00:37:57,520 extraterrestrial groups who have a much 806 00:38:02,340 --> 00:38:00,460 more negative view of humanity that 807 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:02,350 they're more into control and 808 00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:05,290 manipulation whereas the Navy where as 809 00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,750 the Navy have a kind of relationship 810 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:10,000 with you know a more positive group who 811 00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:12,730 who really do see humanity as having 812 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:14,860 great potential and want to kind of like 813 00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:19,510 give us the opportunity to find our way 814 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,400 because you know oftentimes I run into 815 00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:24,160 these folks who are like all aliens are 816 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:26,680 good and they're here to just be loved 817 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:30,130 like know what just because they have a 818 00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:32,530 shinier goofy it's your ride doesn't 819 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:35,320 mean that they're more advanced socially 820 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:39,010 or emotionally you know it just blows my 821 00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:41,290 mind so I'm glad that you you mentioned 822 00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:42,940 that you know they're not all fuzzy and 823 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:45,550 warm on the inside or outside because 824 00:38:50,190 --> 00:38:47,680 there's a lot of horrible stories out 825 00:38:54,210 --> 00:38:50,200 there and I don't know where you sit on 826 00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:54,220 the idea of the government masquerading 827 00:38:58,770 --> 00:38:56,710 around as aliens abducting people trying 828 00:39:00,780 --> 00:38:58,780 to make them believe they're aliens 829 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:00,790 abducting people where do you where do 830 00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:02,770 you sit on that opinion and is that a 831 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:06,609 reality okay well that's something that 832 00:39:11,790 --> 00:39:09,970 Steven Greer has been pushing he's 833 00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:11,800 saying that the government has created 834 00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,100 these kind of alien look-alikes he calls 835 00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:16,960 them programmed life-forms that they're 836 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:20,260 kind of synthetic gray looking alien and 837 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:23,920 they're and I like using them in these 838 00:39:27,390 --> 00:39:25,690 abductions of people and making people 839 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:27,400 believe that aliens are bad and that 840 00:39:31,770 --> 00:39:29,710 this is something he's being saying well 841 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:31,780 you know I've done a lot of research on 842 00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:34,090 this and I I can say that that's really 843 00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:37,000 not true that's not accurate at all that 844 00:39:43,470 --> 00:39:39,060 there that there are gray 845 00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:43,480 extraterrestrials that I think that they 846 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:46,900 are synthetic and that they are working 847 00:39:53,070 --> 00:39:50,050 under other groups I think there are 848 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:53,080 some gray aliens that are that are kind 849 00:39:58,370 --> 00:39:55,690 of like working closely with the Air 850 00:40:01,080 --> 00:39:58,380 Force in particular and under control of 851 00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:01,090 Air Force officials but I think by and 852 00:40:06,090 --> 00:40:03,940 large most of these greys aliens are 853 00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,100 working either or independently or 854 00:40:11,070 --> 00:40:09,040 underneath other more evolved 855 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:11,080 extraterrestrials such as the reptilians 856 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:15,010 or the praying mantis and yeah even some 857 00:40:21,780 --> 00:40:17,050 human looking extraterrestrials you have 858 00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:21,790 the gray case that was a Nordic looking 859 00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:24,160 type that was directing the grey beings 860 00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:28,630 that were abducting him exactly so you 861 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:30,460 know we really need to think of these 862 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:32,770 greys as it's kind of like a you know 863 00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:33,010 like 864 00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:39,100 life-form and and it's really you know 865 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:42,160 whoever programs them and whatever 866 00:40:48,270 --> 00:40:45,010 purpose they put them to that's going to 867 00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:48,280 be the key in understanding you know 868 00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:50,760 their impact and and so for some groups 869 00:40:56,850 --> 00:40:54,160 you know this is you know the the kind 870 00:41:00,240 --> 00:40:56,860 of reptilian group the airforce group I 871 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:00,250 think that they use these greys for kind 872 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:04,090 of like abductions and and doing kind of 873 00:41:09,690 --> 00:41:06,040 all kinds of genetic experiments on 874 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:09,700 people and other groups have might have 875 00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:13,330 more benign designs for these greys and 876 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:15,070 also you know I think that there are 877 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,490 some greys that are kind of following 878 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:20,560 that path to you know complete 879 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:22,810 independence and autonomy that you know 880 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:24,160 don't want to be controlled or 881 00:41:28,740 --> 00:41:26,410 manipulated by other groups and they're 882 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:28,750 trying to find their own way and and so 883 00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,130 that's kind of like you know we have 884 00:41:35,220 --> 00:41:32,560 people like Darryl anchor talking about 885 00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:35,230 the SS Ani so you know I think yet there 886 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:37,030 are many different groups you know we 887 00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:38,290 really need to be careful about 888 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:41,560 generalizing you know you know we can't 889 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:44,170 say that all greys are bad or reptilians 890 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:46,450 are bad you know all Nordics are good 891 00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:48,250 that it's not as simple as that there's 892 00:41:55,170 --> 00:41:49,480 a lot of crossover 893 00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:55,180 yeah well follow their actions that 894 00:42:00,990 --> 00:41:58,270 isn't cool yeah I mean it's kind of 895 00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:01,000 common sense but I'm like if they're 896 00:42:05,490 --> 00:42:02,950 programmable I mean it's something that 897 00:42:08,190 --> 00:42:05,500 probably somebody like Walmart will soon 898 00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:08,200 be purchase may be able to purchase the 899 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:10,270 rights to put it out there or something 900 00:42:16,830 --> 00:42:14,650 my goodness these these beings you know 901 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:16,840 we're if we have the access if our 902 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:18,490 governments have the access to these 903 00:42:22,830 --> 00:42:21,070 beings and they're able to access so 904 00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:22,840 much technology and and they're just 905 00:42:30,990 --> 00:42:26,080 using it to fly in outer space and do 906 00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:31,000 all these cool little doodads why not do 907 00:42:34,770 --> 00:42:33,190 more for the planet that we have already 908 00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:34,780 instead of looking at the other ones 909 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:37,540 we've got you know gazillions of little 910 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:40,210 pellets of plastic floating in the 911 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:43,570 oceans killing our creatures we've got 912 00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:46,450 oil spills that have destroyed so much 913 00:42:51,809 --> 00:42:48,630 you know there's so much that could be 914 00:42:54,210 --> 00:42:51,819 rectified here but it doesn't sound like 915 00:42:58,140 --> 00:42:54,220 our rotten good-for-nothing governments 916 00:43:01,230 --> 00:42:58,150 are really aiming to help this planet 917 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:01,240 they're helping themselves to have fun I 918 00:43:07,049 --> 00:43:04,240 mean you know if you ask any guy like 919 00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:07,059 what could you what would you you make a 920 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:10,900 few if you had no limit on cash and it's 921 00:43:13,950 --> 00:43:12,250 like I make the fastest car that I could 922 00:43:15,809 --> 00:43:13,960 make or you know it's always about you 923 00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:15,819 know really cool things that they can 924 00:43:19,890 --> 00:43:17,980 make to zip around and check something 925 00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:19,900 out and it's like you know slow it down 926 00:43:25,470 --> 00:43:23,260 and and back up and have a look around 927 00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,480 have a heart with what it is that you're 928 00:43:29,789 --> 00:43:27,520 really asking for if you have the 929 00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:29,799 ability to I mean is any of that being 930 00:43:33,539 --> 00:43:32,079 done and and I mean or did your cancer 931 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:33,549 for crying out loud I know they got the 932 00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:36,400 cure why are they not having a heart in 933 00:43:40,940 --> 00:43:38,230 these conversations are having with 934 00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:40,950 these so-called advanced beings then 935 00:43:47,010 --> 00:43:44,380 well I think we really need to separate 936 00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:47,020 the government from the secret 937 00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:48,670 government or you know people call it 938 00:43:52,589 --> 00:43:50,740 the deep the deep state or the shadow 939 00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:52,599 government or the Illuminati but 940 00:43:58,020 --> 00:43:54,460 essentially you know these are groups of 941 00:44:05,339 --> 00:43:58,030 people that really have psychopathic 942 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:05,349 tendencies that they they're all about 943 00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:08,170 control they're all about kind of like 944 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,790 manipulating the the rest of humanity 945 00:44:14,430 --> 00:44:11,440 and there have been studies that show 946 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:14,440 that you know some way you know that 1% 947 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:16,000 of the population are genetically 948 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,450 psychopaths and another 4% sociopaths 949 00:44:23,069 --> 00:44:21,280 which is you know through environmental 950 00:44:25,170 --> 00:44:23,079 conditions that they you know like that 951 00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:25,180 empathic connection so that means you 952 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:27,430 know 95 percent of the rest of humanity 953 00:44:32,609 --> 00:44:30,490 are capable of that basic empathic 954 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:32,619 connection with another person where 955 00:44:37,740 --> 00:44:34,450 something like killing another person 956 00:44:40,530 --> 00:44:37,750 you know is is it is deeply shocking and 957 00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:40,540 upsetting and you really need to train 958 00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:42,460 people that's what Miller the military 959 00:44:47,309 --> 00:44:44,920 does it trains people to make it feel 960 00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:47,319 like it's okay to kill another human 961 00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:49,240 being because you're doing it for this 962 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:50,950 this and this and this reason but you 963 00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:54,160 know but basically for 90% 95% of 964 00:44:57,420 --> 00:44:54,670 humanity 965 00:44:59,130 --> 00:44:57,430 killing another person is deeply 966 00:45:00,240 --> 00:44:59,140 traumatic at some level whereas for the 967 00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:00,250 sociopaths and the soccer 968 00:45:04,859 --> 00:45:02,710 that's you know it really means a little 969 00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:04,869 to them they can do it without a second 970 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:07,030 thought and and these are the people 971 00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:08,950 that really are the ones that are in 972 00:45:13,290 --> 00:45:11,260 control of major corporations that 973 00:45:16,109 --> 00:45:13,300 they're in control of governments in a 974 00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:16,119 date that they identify you know bright 975 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:19,750 up-and-coming politicians or corporate 976 00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:22,810 executives they ensnare them in some 977 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:27,040 kind of you know a pedophile ring or 978 00:45:31,470 --> 00:45:29,050 some kind of satanic practice or 979 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:31,480 something that compromises them at a 980 00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:33,910 deep level so that then they have a 981 00:45:37,530 --> 00:45:35,500 control file on them and then they can 982 00:45:39,150 --> 00:45:37,540 manipulate them to get them to do 983 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:39,160 whatever they want you know whether in 984 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:41,920 it whether they are in a high government 985 00:45:46,740 --> 00:45:44,530 position or whether they rise through 986 00:45:50,130 --> 00:45:46,750 the ranks of a corporation and become a 987 00:45:52,859 --> 00:45:50,140 CEO that these people can be controlled 988 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:52,869 by these Psychopaths that are part of 989 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:56,770 this kind of government disgusting 990 00:46:00,920 --> 00:45:58,090 it really is somebody's got to be 991 00:46:05,609 --> 00:46:00,930 cross-checking these fools I mean it 992 00:46:08,430 --> 00:46:05,619 uh-huh my head anyways um I I wanted to 993 00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:08,440 get on to some of the the good juicy 994 00:46:14,339 --> 00:46:10,780 bits that are in your book I guess a 995 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:14,349 good place to start off is who is Leslie 996 00:46:21,390 --> 00:46:17,770 Stevens and what is going on with his 997 00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:21,400 dealings in Hollywood well he is a 998 00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:24,220 really interesting guy I mean he was the 999 00:46:32,910 --> 00:46:28,750 son of of a Navy admiral who was part of 1000 00:46:35,550 --> 00:46:32,920 the Navy's developing a secret space 1001 00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:35,560 program and getting all of this 1002 00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,089 intelligence about these Nazi programs 1003 00:46:46,290 --> 00:46:43,359 out of Antarctica and also about this 1004 00:46:47,790 --> 00:46:46,300 kind of advanced Nordic extraterrestrial 1005 00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:47,800 race that were trying to help humanity 1006 00:46:56,690 --> 00:46:52,950 and so Leslie Stevens he's his father 1007 00:47:00,450 --> 00:46:56,700 gave him all this information because 1008 00:47:02,370 --> 00:47:00,460 Leslie Stevens was had a background in 1009 00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:02,380 military intelligence during the Second 1010 00:47:08,099 --> 00:47:04,750 World War and his father was an admiral 1011 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:08,109 who ran psychological operations for the 1012 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:10,570 Navy immediately after the Second World 1013 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:12,970 War and so Leslie Stevens actually 1014 00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:14,210 entered in 1015 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:17,150 to Hollywood and he was the the creator 1016 00:47:23,890 --> 00:47:21,530 of the Outer Limits sci-fi series and so 1017 00:47:27,790 --> 00:47:23,900 in the outer limits series you actually 1018 00:47:30,940 --> 00:47:27,800 have a lot of a lot of these kind of 1019 00:47:33,730 --> 00:47:30,950 sci-fi themes in the outer limits being 1020 00:47:35,710 --> 00:47:33,740 this kind of navy sanctioned disclosure 1021 00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:35,720 initiative where the people would learn 1022 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:40,030 about different covert programs and 1023 00:47:45,609 --> 00:47:43,369 Leslie Stevens basically briefed Gene 1024 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:45,619 Roddenberry on the Navy's secret space 1025 00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:47,930 program and so that's how Roddenberry 1026 00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:50,480 came up with the idea of Star Trek 1027 00:47:57,390 --> 00:47:53,990 so Star Trek really was something that 1028 00:48:00,550 --> 00:47:57,400 wasn't just a result of Gene 1029 00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:00,560 Roddenberry's creativity it was because 1030 00:48:09,579 --> 00:48:04,310 he was helped by Leslie Stevens to come 1031 00:48:12,839 --> 00:48:09,589 up with this idea of a kind of as you 1032 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:12,849 know this advanced human looking 1033 00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:16,010 civilization that operated in deep space 1034 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:20,150 which was very ethical and that was you 1035 00:48:24,910 --> 00:48:21,970 know kind of like an explorer type 1036 00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:24,920 civilization and and so these were ideas 1037 00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:28,880 that Roddenberry got from Stevens who 1038 00:48:33,790 --> 00:48:31,910 had in turn got mem from his father who 1039 00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:33,800 was familiar with this kind of Nordic 1040 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:36,230 extraterrestrial civilization that 1041 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:38,210 operated in this way so in other words 1042 00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:40,970 the Star Trek series was actually 1043 00:48:49,450 --> 00:48:45,830 inspired by a real-life kind of Nordic 1044 00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:49,460 human looking civilization very much 1045 00:48:54,730 --> 00:48:52,160 like the Federation of Planets depicted 1046 00:48:58,359 --> 00:48:54,740 in Star Trek so so there's a deep truth 1047 00:49:02,170 --> 00:48:58,369 there in Star Trek that that that 1048 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:02,180 Federation was it was in existence at 1049 00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:04,130 the time a lot of Captain Kirk 1050 00:49:11,530 --> 00:49:09,440 look-alike so I mean and the technology 1051 00:49:14,589 --> 00:49:11,540 of course I mean the flip phones been 1052 00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,599 able to talk into your watch I mean so 1053 00:49:20,109 --> 00:49:16,640 much of the technology and what was able 1054 00:49:22,839 --> 00:49:20,119 to be made into reality I'm just looking 1055 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:22,849 for the the teleportation to come and 1056 00:49:28,450 --> 00:49:24,530 effect but I heard it already is they're 1057 00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,460 just not showing us oh it is exactly 1058 00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:31,040 they already have it they've been 1059 00:49:37,020 --> 00:49:34,270 developing and testing that since the 1060 00:49:41,290 --> 00:49:37,030 1960s and 70s these kinds of 1061 00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:41,300 teleportation are devices and they just 1062 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:44,240 these are still very highly classified 1063 00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:46,910 programs they're not sharing it at the 1064 00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:49,390 moment though you know the open sites 1065 00:49:55,780 --> 00:49:53,390 open source literature does refer to you 1066 00:49:58,240 --> 00:49:55,790 know teleportation being viable with 1067 00:50:00,359 --> 00:49:58,250 photons so you know that in itself is 1068 00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:00,369 kind of like acknowledging that 1069 00:50:07,570 --> 00:50:03,950 teleportation is feasible because if you 1070 00:50:10,270 --> 00:50:07,580 can teleport photons you know then you 1071 00:50:12,210 --> 00:50:10,280 know you have the basis for in the 1072 00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:12,220 future being able to kind of upgrade and 1073 00:50:18,490 --> 00:50:15,640 teleport you know molecules and 1074 00:50:21,579 --> 00:50:18,500 eventually kind of like organic fully 1075 00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:21,589 organic beings like like humans but but 1076 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:23,030 in the classified arena they've been 1077 00:50:27,310 --> 00:50:25,250 doing this a long time because they have 1078 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:27,320 the supercomputers the quantum computers 1079 00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:29,510 to be able to kind of like you know 1080 00:50:35,050 --> 00:50:32,510 download all of the information and to 1081 00:50:38,650 --> 00:50:35,060 be able to instantaneously transport it 1082 00:50:40,450 --> 00:50:38,660 to another part of the solid solar 1083 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:40,460 system or even the galaxies elsewhere in 1084 00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:42,530 the galaxy you know if everything people 1085 00:50:49,660 --> 00:50:46,150 see in sci-fi series like Stargate sg-1 1086 00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:49,670 you know yeah there's a lot of truth in 1087 00:50:56,620 --> 00:50:53,839 that that that technology does exist is 1088 00:50:59,740 --> 00:50:56,630 you know I just find this this whole 1089 00:51:03,550 --> 00:50:59,750 secrecy to be so darn selfish it's like 1090 00:51:07,150 --> 00:51:03,560 how and why would they not want the rest 1091 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:07,160 of society to join in the fun and help 1092 00:51:12,670 --> 00:51:10,010 give some awesome input instead of them 1093 00:51:16,089 --> 00:51:12,680 going through a crowd of saying you you 1094 00:51:17,890 --> 00:51:16,099 and maybe you can be in on it and help 1095 00:51:20,140 --> 00:51:17,900 us figure this out so we could beat the 1096 00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:20,150 Russians you know it's it's B it's 1097 00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:23,839 become a like a a sense of warfare and 1098 00:51:28,540 --> 00:51:26,390 and it doesn't need to be I mean we 1099 00:51:32,170 --> 00:51:28,550 could go into the days of Star Trek 1100 00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:32,180 where people do and explore just because 1101 00:51:36,579 --> 00:51:34,910 you know and people don't have to work 1102 00:51:38,740 --> 00:51:36,589 for a living because we provide and 1103 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:38,750 because we're able to but there's those 1104 00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,050 people who like to I don't know 1105 00:51:46,570 --> 00:51:44,240 put gold chains on their sheep like they 1106 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:46,580 do and like the Saudis do I was really 1107 00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:48,650 shocked to see that because they want to 1108 00:51:53,050 --> 00:51:50,270 stay rich they want to remain the ones 1109 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:53,060 in power and it's it's such a it's just 1110 00:51:57,610 --> 00:51:56,450 I am you know what I I was an alien I 1111 00:51:59,590 --> 00:51:57,620 don't know if I'd want to get to know 1112 00:52:01,870 --> 00:51:59,600 these people I mean because it's just 1113 00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:01,880 like you would think that they would be 1114 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:04,160 disgusted at the secrecy I I'm shocked 1115 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:06,650 at that has that ever been expressed of 1116 00:52:11,050 --> 00:52:08,810 by them like why don't you tell 1117 00:52:12,310 --> 00:52:11,060 everybody else I mean these are good 1118 00:52:16,330 --> 00:52:12,320 beings quote unquote 1119 00:52:18,610 --> 00:52:16,340 why wouldn't they wonder yeah well you 1120 00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:18,620 know this is the thing that you know the 1121 00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:21,680 ones that the secret government the deep 1122 00:52:28,030 --> 00:52:25,030 state that really are in control of 1123 00:52:30,820 --> 00:52:28,040 planetary institutions and treat us like 1124 00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,830 sheep you know like you said they what 1125 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:32,720 they want to kind of put that gold leash 1126 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:35,570 on us and just kind of keep a tight 1127 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:38,090 leash type control over us because they 1128 00:52:42,430 --> 00:52:40,370 really don't think that we're capable of 1129 00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:42,440 anything more than just you know being 1130 00:52:48,010 --> 00:52:45,280 able to produce you know the kind of 1131 00:52:50,620 --> 00:52:48,020 technologies and the wealth that they 1132 00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:50,630 need for their secret space programs and 1133 00:52:55,180 --> 00:52:52,910 and they've work with certain 1134 00:52:59,500 --> 00:52:55,190 extraterrestrial groups that have that 1135 00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:59,510 kind of more negative mindset about us 1136 00:53:04,450 --> 00:53:01,760 as a species that were very aggressive 1137 00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:04,460 and quite savage and you know you kind 1138 00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:06,350 of scratch the veneer of civilization 1139 00:53:12,370 --> 00:53:09,440 and humans can be very barbaric towards 1140 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:12,380 one another but you know there's there's 1141 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:14,210 another group of extraterrestrials that 1142 00:53:18,310 --> 00:53:16,010 you know believe very differently that 1143 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:18,320 you know that they can see that we have 1144 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:20,570 this enormous potential and that if 1145 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:22,850 we're just given space if we just you 1146 00:53:27,850 --> 00:53:25,570 know have these restrictive practices 1147 00:53:30,370 --> 00:53:27,860 released then and this advanced 1148 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:30,380 technology kind of you know that were 1149 00:53:35,620 --> 00:53:32,570 allowed to get access to it that our 1150 00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:35,630 civilization will kind of flourish very 1151 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:37,510 quickly and that will become very 1152 00:53:43,150 --> 00:53:39,890 peaceful but that's what that's what the 1153 00:53:44,740 --> 00:53:43,160 that's what the deeps press stayed or 1154 00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:44,750 the controllers don't want they don't 1155 00:53:50,530 --> 00:53:47,390 want us being peaceful because you know 1156 00:53:53,290 --> 00:53:50,540 through war and conflict they can make 1157 00:53:56,010 --> 00:53:53,300 enormous profits the peace and harmony 1158 00:54:02,170 --> 00:53:56,020 is not good for profit 1159 00:54:05,140 --> 00:54:02,180 that is a crying shame you know how are 1160 00:54:08,410 --> 00:54:05,150 we to know without right certainty that 1161 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:08,420 the ones who are in power and who are 1162 00:54:14,789 --> 00:54:10,970 hoarding the knowledge and the 1163 00:54:17,740 --> 00:54:14,799 technology of all of this stuff that 1164 00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:17,750 they're not aliens themselves how do we 1165 00:54:23,319 --> 00:54:20,240 not know I mean if they could appear as 1166 00:54:25,420 --> 00:54:23,329 one of us I mean perhaps we're being 1167 00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:25,430 played by both sides like Oh a generous 1168 00:54:30,370 --> 00:54:27,710 alien and then oh it's his buddy that's 1169 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:30,380 like being greedy pretending to be a 1170 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:31,970 human being I mean how would we how 1171 00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,450 would we not know or know right well you 1172 00:54:39,940 --> 00:54:37,520 know it's a good question you know the 1173 00:54:41,470 --> 00:54:39,950 first thing is to keep in mind that you 1174 00:54:45,730 --> 00:54:41,480 know that these extraterrestrials have 1175 00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:45,740 been genetically intermixing or splicing 1176 00:54:51,339 --> 00:54:48,799 their genetics into us on the you know 1177 00:54:53,710 --> 00:54:51,349 on this planet for over 500,000 years so 1178 00:54:56,770 --> 00:54:53,720 we are all kind of like extraterrestrial 1179 00:54:59,200 --> 00:54:56,780 hybrids the big question is to what 1180 00:55:01,900 --> 00:54:59,210 degree do we have extraterrestrial 1181 00:55:04,539 --> 00:55:01,910 genetics within us those that have the 1182 00:55:06,539 --> 00:55:04,549 genetics of some of these more kind of 1183 00:55:09,339 --> 00:55:06,549 like aggressive or Imperial 1184 00:55:11,770 --> 00:55:09,349 extraterrestrial races you know they 1185 00:55:13,809 --> 00:55:11,780 typically form the the bluebloods 1186 00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:13,819 you know they are part of these kind of 1187 00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,049 13 ruling families that go back many 1188 00:55:23,859 --> 00:55:20,480 millennia in terms of having a lot of 1189 00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:23,869 control over humanity so you know they 1190 00:55:28,329 --> 00:55:26,510 have a lot of that they have the the 1191 00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:28,339 genetics of you know a particular 1192 00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:30,910 extraterrestrial group you know that 1193 00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:33,680 that has more influence in them and 1194 00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:38,030 others you know we might be reflective 1195 00:55:43,180 --> 00:55:40,880 of other more positive extraterrestrial 1196 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:43,190 groups but you know we are kind of 1197 00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:45,650 outside of the ruling elite families 1198 00:55:50,140 --> 00:55:47,569 that but not being that monopolize 1199 00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:50,150 wealth because capitalism is really good 1200 00:55:57,819 --> 00:55:53,569 for Psychopaths that want to basically 1201 00:55:59,620 --> 00:55:57,829 monopolize wealth sorry we've got to get 1202 00:56:01,059 --> 00:55:59,630 to our next break you guys you listen to 1203 00:56:03,809 --> 00:56:01,069 me how you house the Outlander and we 1204 00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:06,339 welcome back you are listening to me 1205 00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:08,510 honey house the Outland are remembering 1206 00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:10,550 always if it's weird we're here and we 1207 00:56:17,319 --> 00:56:13,040 are speaking with dr. Salah and regards 1208 00:56:20,140 --> 00:56:17,329 to Exopolitics in regards to the crazy 1209 00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:20,150 madness called the secret space program 1210 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:23,020 that the Navy and Air Force are both 1211 00:56:29,050 --> 00:56:26,450 involved in oh my gosh it runs so deep 1212 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:29,060 and I'm sorry for interrupting you but I 1213 00:56:33,250 --> 00:56:30,770 don't know if you recall where your 1214 00:56:37,210 --> 00:56:33,260 thought was on it but I'll give you the 1215 00:56:43,630 --> 00:56:37,220 floor dr. Salah well thank you I 1216 00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:43,640 actually done good 1217 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:47,569 I I have a question that was posted in 1218 00:56:53,890 --> 00:56:51,890 the chat room by Carol and he said that 1219 00:56:59,170 --> 00:56:53,900 you're aware of this it what your take 1220 00:57:02,890 --> 00:56:59,180 is on projects serpo sure well you know 1221 00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:02,900 project super I think is something 1222 00:57:10,109 --> 00:57:07,040 connected to the air force's 1223 00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:10,119 relationship with a group of 1224 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:13,280 extraterrestrials that you know that are 1225 00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:16,250 kind of like grey that are part of that 1226 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:19,910 kind of synthetic or gray lineage and 1227 00:57:28,359 --> 00:57:24,770 that that this group has been working 1228 00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:28,369 with the Air Force for several decades 1229 00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:34,180 and in the 1960s 1970s that they 1230 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:36,910 participated in an exchange program 1231 00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:41,510 where I think it was about a dozen Air 1232 00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:46,790 Force personnel were allowed to be taken 1233 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:49,790 by this group of extraterrestrials to 1234 00:57:59,470 --> 00:57:54,770 their homeworld I think it's kind of the 1235 00:58:02,050 --> 00:57:59,480 planet serpo in in the z-row reticulum 1236 00:58:05,859 --> 00:58:02,060 star system as I kind of vaguely recall 1237 00:58:10,450 --> 00:58:05,869 it but nevertheless and there was a 1238 00:58:13,089 --> 00:58:10,460 group of these grey aliens that worked 1239 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:13,099 with the Air Force in their various 1240 00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:15,010 secret programs 1241 00:58:21,330 --> 00:58:17,710 and and so the project super material 1242 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:21,340 was the release of a lot of information 1243 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:24,250 pertaining to that by a group of 1244 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:28,090 anonymous whistleblowers that were 1245 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:30,090 associated with the Defense Intelligence 1246 00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:33,970 Agency and and very recently really only 1247 00:58:37,530 --> 00:58:35,470 I think it was about two months ago 1248 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:37,540 there was another Defense Intelligence 1249 00:58:44,490 --> 00:58:41,170 Agency document that was real that was 1250 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:44,500 leaked which gave a lot more information 1251 00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:48,490 about this exchange program so you know 1252 00:58:54,270 --> 00:58:51,190 essentially this is a program like for 1253 00:58:56,940 --> 00:58:54,280 an exchange difference or something well 1254 00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:56,950 you know kind of like that you know when 1255 00:59:00,780 --> 00:58:59,050 you you have the Air Force doing this 1256 00:59:03,140 --> 00:59:00,790 exchange with this group of 1257 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:03,150 extraterrestrials from the planet Serpa 1258 00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:05,650 and that way you know there can be any 1259 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:07,630 kind of information sharing a cult 1260 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:11,010 cultural kind of acclimation program 1261 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:14,050 developing so this was you know with the 1262 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:16,090 Air Force Defense Intelligence Agency 1263 00:59:23,490 --> 00:59:20,050 the NRO which as I mentioned earlier is 1264 00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,500 a separate program to what the Navy has 1265 00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:25,920 been doing in terms of its own 1266 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:29,230 relationship with extraterrestrials and 1267 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:31,450 in particular a Nordic human-looking 1268 00:59:37,830 --> 00:59:33,610 group so these are these are different 1269 00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:37,840 programs but but nevertheless you know I 1270 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:40,870 think that the Air Force you know they 1271 00:59:47,660 --> 00:59:44,370 were able to get information from these 1272 00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:47,670 exchanges that help them with their 1273 00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:50,680 program development it's amazing how the 1274 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:51,910 right hand doesn't know what the left 1275 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:54,130 hand is doing I mean with different 1276 01:00:00,330 --> 00:59:56,650 aliens or the Navy versus the Air Force 1277 01:00:02,790 --> 01:00:00,340 and I don't I'm I don't know I just 1278 01:00:04,830 --> 01:00:02,800 think you know with more cooperation the 1279 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:04,840 the more likely you'll the further 1280 01:00:08,250 --> 01:00:06,370 you'll get an understanding and 1281 01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:08,260 development so I I don't understand 1282 01:00:12,270 --> 01:00:10,030 their division I mean is are they that 1283 01:00:14,730 --> 01:00:12,280 prideful like Air Force Navy you know I 1284 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:14,740 know how they get in the you know who's 1285 01:00:20,130 --> 01:00:16,690 better than the other but yeah that's 1286 01:00:23,790 --> 01:00:20,140 just a little that's right but you know 1287 01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:23,800 when it when it comes to and you were 1288 01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:25,150 speaking about Leslie Stevens earlier 1289 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:28,480 and and he also developed 1290 01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:30,970 my favorite television sci-fi series 1291 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:34,720 Battlestar Galactica Why What 1292 01:00:39,950 --> 01:00:36,730 why do you believe that that was an 1293 01:00:43,970 --> 01:00:39,960 example of soft disclosure to an extent 1294 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:43,980 well you know that Battlestar Galactica 1295 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:47,920 the pilot episode 4 that was actually 1296 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:52,570 written by Glenn LA are by Leslie 1297 01:01:00,089 --> 01:00:55,930 Stevens and he helped Glenn Larson's 1298 01:01:03,390 --> 01:01:00,099 who is attributed as the creator of the 1299 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:03,400 Battlestar Galactica series but in fact 1300 01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:06,010 the person who gave him the information 1301 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:09,040 and the insights into this series was 1302 01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:11,970 again Leslie Stevens the same guy that 1303 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:15,849 that basically gave Gene Roddenberry the 1304 01:01:22,650 --> 01:01:19,690 information about Star Trek now he gave 1305 01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:22,660 Leslie Stevens gave Glenn Larson's this 1306 01:01:29,370 --> 01:01:26,440 information I think it was in the 70s 1307 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:29,380 early 80s you know for the original 1308 01:01:38,780 --> 01:01:32,530 Battlestar Galactica series because at 1309 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:38,790 that time the you have learned danger of 1310 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:40,690 your intelligence 1311 01:01:48,020 --> 01:01:45,130 was for developing civilizations that by 1312 01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:48,030 the time the Navy had learned from their 1313 01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:50,710 relationship with these human King 1314 01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:52,030 extraterrestrials that artificial 1315 01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:54,160 intelligence was a really big problem 1316 01:02:00,359 --> 01:01:58,240 throughout the galaxy that civilizations 1317 01:02:03,210 --> 01:02:00,369 that went down the path of developing 1318 01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:03,220 artificial intelligence eventually reach 1319 01:02:09,089 --> 01:02:06,400 a point where if they're not careful the 1320 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:09,099 artificial intelligence turns on them 1321 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:11,530 just as it did in these in the 1322 01:02:16,829 --> 01:02:13,450 Battlestar Galactica series and 1323 01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:16,839 especially in the reboot where where you 1324 01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:19,510 actually have this synthetic looking 1325 01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,950 human which is an AI that that you're 1326 01:02:27,450 --> 01:02:25,839 listening to love advice with Leanne 1327 01:02:29,609 --> 01:02:27,460 caller you're on the air 1328 01:02:32,370 --> 01:02:29,619 hi Leanne longtime listener first-time 1329 01:02:34,740 --> 01:02:32,380 caller why in your professional opinion 1330 01:02:38,099 --> 01:02:34,750 do you never take my calls off the air 1331 01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:38,109 is this Carl yep it's Carl I mean we had 1332 01:02:41,819 --> 01:02:39,280 a few dates everything was great I 1333 01:02:44,459 --> 01:02:41,829 thought well you know 1334 01:02:46,049 --> 01:02:44,469 when you switch to Geico you could save 1335 01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:46,059 a lot of money on car insurance 1336 01:02:51,329 --> 01:02:48,910 okay awesome you should call them I will 1337 01:02:53,130 --> 01:02:51,339 Geico because saving 15% or more on car 1338 01:02:56,519 --> 01:02:53,140 insurance is always a great answer 1339 01:03:00,089 --> 01:02:56,529 actually is something that has happened 1340 01:03:02,009 --> 01:03:00,099 again and again in our galaxy so so 1341 01:03:05,939 --> 01:03:02,019 Battlestar Galactica was really this 1342 01:03:08,219 --> 01:03:05,949 this warning and and why you know and 1343 01:03:12,029 --> 01:03:08,229 one of the things to keep in mind about 1344 01:03:14,219 --> 01:03:12,039 Battlestar Galactica was that it of all 1345 01:03:17,279 --> 01:03:14,229 the science fiction shows it is the only 1346 01:03:21,019 --> 01:03:17,289 one where I believe it was in either 1347 01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:21,029 2009 or 2010 I don't have the exact day 1348 01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:24,640 but that Battlestar Galactica the cast 1349 01:03:31,739 --> 01:03:28,209 and the producers of the series were 1350 01:03:35,689 --> 01:03:31,749 invited to the United Nations New York 1351 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:35,699 headquarters to give a seminar on on how 1352 01:03:43,309 --> 01:03:39,130 on the insights that Battlestar 1353 01:03:49,759 --> 01:03:43,319 Galactica provides on interspecies 1354 01:03:55,919 --> 01:03:52,979 that's right it's low why why would the 1355 01:04:00,359 --> 01:03:55,929 United Nations invite the cast and 1356 01:04:04,169 --> 01:04:00,369 producers of this sci-fi show to give a 1357 01:04:08,279 --> 01:04:04,179 talk to to the United Nations on you 1358 01:04:16,380 --> 01:04:08,289 know lessons the clothes must have been 1359 01:04:18,419 --> 01:04:16,390 furious I'm just kidding but I you know 1360 01:04:20,849 --> 01:04:18,429 if and if people haven't seen Battlestar 1361 01:04:23,309 --> 01:04:20,859 Galactica I love the reboot especially I 1362 01:04:25,169 --> 01:04:23,319 mean it is worth binge watching even the 1363 01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:25,179 old one I mean there's two different 1364 01:04:31,380 --> 01:04:28,089 ones out there so i alright that's wild 1365 01:04:32,729 --> 01:04:31,390 that is wild you know I wanted it to is 1366 01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:32,739 we don't have a whole heck of a lot of 1367 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:34,569 time I could tell I told you in the 1368 01:04:37,999 --> 01:04:35,890 break I could talk to you forever 1369 01:04:41,309 --> 01:04:38,009 because there's so much to discuss and 1370 01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:41,319 so much wiggle room our government has 1371 01:04:47,309 --> 01:04:45,249 and hiding things you know you you feel 1372 01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:47,319 that the Navy 1373 01:04:52,359 --> 01:04:50,799 it supports full disclosure why do you 1374 01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:52,369 feel that and 1375 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:53,900 what role do you think that Trump may 1376 01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:56,210 have in this I mean he's got a whole 1377 01:04:59,739 --> 01:04:57,680 different approach out there in the 1378 01:05:04,749 --> 01:04:59,749 world I mean I hope he takes a strong 1379 01:05:07,470 --> 01:05:04,759 step in the direction of disclosure well 1380 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:07,480 you know the thing is that the Navy 1381 01:05:12,519 --> 01:05:10,730 institutionally regards itself as kind 1382 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:12,529 of like the defenders of the Republic 1383 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:15,410 you know it goes back to you know John 1384 01:05:19,450 --> 01:05:17,450 Paul Jones and you know the American 1385 01:05:22,620 --> 01:05:19,460 Revolution the Navy's history goes all 1386 01:05:26,650 --> 01:05:22,630 the way plaid so this is way before 1387 01:05:29,499 --> 01:05:26,660 corporations began to you know develop 1388 01:05:32,289 --> 01:05:29,509 and get a lot of influence over the US 1389 01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:32,299 political system and and the Navy in 1390 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:35,359 particular is is very concerned about 1391 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:38,930 the growing power of the Econo of 1392 01:05:45,579 --> 01:05:41,930 corporations in controlling the American 1393 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:45,589 political system and the media and and 1394 01:05:51,299 --> 01:05:48,650 how corporations really have created 1395 01:05:54,970 --> 01:05:51,309 this kind of military-industrial complex 1396 01:05:56,529 --> 01:05:54,980 that now politicians are really at the 1397 01:05:59,680 --> 01:05:56,539 beck and call of these major 1398 01:06:01,930 --> 01:05:59,690 corporations and that and who controls 1399 01:06:04,299 --> 01:06:01,940 the corporations it's the the deep spade 1400 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:04,309 the kind of you know the ruling blood 1401 01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:06,410 thirteen bloodline families the 1402 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:10,609 Illuminati and so the Navy he has been 1403 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:12,650 watching all of this and so they are 1404 01:06:17,890 --> 01:06:15,170 very opposed to it and so they've been 1405 01:06:20,529 --> 01:06:17,900 from the very beginning encouraging 1406 01:06:22,749 --> 01:06:20,539 people you know encouraging the 1407 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:22,759 disclosure of this information and you 1408 01:06:27,460 --> 01:06:24,410 don't have to go too far back you can 1409 01:06:29,140 --> 01:06:27,470 see that you know some of the the people 1410 01:06:33,729 --> 01:06:29,150 that were most in favor of disclosure 1411 01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:33,739 were people like James Forrestal who was 1412 01:06:39,099 --> 01:06:36,319 the Secretary of Defense Admiral Roscoe 1413 01:06:41,259 --> 01:06:39,109 Hill and Carter who was the director of 1414 01:06:43,420 --> 01:06:41,269 the Central Intelligence and you know he 1415 01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:43,430 became one of the board members of the 1416 01:06:47,859 --> 01:06:45,609 board of directors of the National 1417 01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:47,869 investigations community for aerial 1418 01:06:53,259 --> 01:06:50,960 phenomenon John F Kennedy was a Navy guy 1419 01:06:55,150 --> 01:06:53,269 you know you just go through a long line 1420 01:06:57,279 --> 01:06:55,160 of people who've been getting trying to 1421 01:06:59,829 --> 01:06:57,289 get this information out and it all 1422 01:07:02,319 --> 01:06:59,839 comes back to the Navy so the Navy are 1423 01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:02,329 behind William Tompkins are they're 1424 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:08,140 Corie good behind a number of other 1425 01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:10,850 whistleblowers who are wanting to come 1426 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:12,710 out with this information so definitely 1427 01:07:18,790 --> 01:07:16,010 the Navy has always been along with the 1428 01:07:20,620 --> 01:07:18,800 Marines the US Marine Corps are also but 1429 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:20,630 they're part of the Navy Department of 1430 01:07:25,420 --> 01:07:23,570 Navy include includes the Navy service 1431 01:07:27,550 --> 01:07:25,430 and the Marine Corps service so the 1432 01:07:30,550 --> 01:07:27,560 Department of the Navy of all of the 1433 01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:30,560 militaries this has always been the ones 1434 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:33,190 that have been pushing the disclosure 1435 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:37,130 issue both more strongly than anyone 1436 01:07:42,220 --> 01:07:40,090 else and the Air Force is the 1437 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:42,230 institution which as you know 1438 01:07:47,260 --> 01:07:44,330 unfortunately been the one that has been 1439 01:07:49,420 --> 01:07:47,270 most compromised by the corporations and 1440 01:07:54,910 --> 01:07:49,430 by this more kind of a regressive 1441 01:07:57,700 --> 01:07:54,920 extraterrestrial affection so if if 1442 01:07:59,710 --> 01:07:57,710 they're in support of disclosure then 1443 01:08:01,810 --> 01:07:59,720 why the mylabs why the military 1444 01:08:03,340 --> 01:08:01,820 abductions what what are they trying to 1445 01:08:06,610 --> 01:08:03,350 accomplish with that and who's doing 1446 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:06,620 that then well you know if you look at 1447 01:08:14,140 --> 01:08:08,690 if you look at the descriptions of the 1448 01:08:17,740 --> 01:08:14,150 mylabs you'll find that most of them you 1449 01:08:20,579 --> 01:08:17,750 know where people see Air Force officers 1450 01:08:24,610 --> 01:08:20,589 or they're taken to Air Force facilities 1451 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:24,620 so you know I struggles to think of any 1452 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:27,770 kind of abductee that talks about an 1453 01:08:33,579 --> 01:08:31,130 abduction involving the Navy typically 1454 01:08:36,460 --> 01:08:33,589 it's always involving Air Force because 1455 01:08:39,670 --> 01:08:36,470 the Air Force does work with these kind 1456 01:08:41,620 --> 01:08:39,680 of extraterrestrial groups that are more 1457 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:41,630 into control and manipulating the 1458 01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:45,170 population doing kind of regressive mind 1459 01:08:52,349 --> 01:08:49,310 control and genetic experiments and so 1460 01:08:57,099 --> 01:08:52,359 forth that the these are by and large 1461 01:09:03,760 --> 01:08:57,109 Air Force Air Force collusion in these 1462 01:09:06,460 --> 01:09:03,770 my labs see it's it's sad that that our 1463 01:09:08,770 --> 01:09:06,470 own people are allowing for this this 1464 01:09:11,230 --> 01:09:08,780 type of infiltration and abduction and 1465 01:09:14,650 --> 01:09:11,240 mutilation of their own people their own 1466 01:09:17,470 --> 01:09:14,660 kind I mean it's is it really worth you 1467 01:09:19,660 --> 01:09:17,480 know even a single life to be disrupted 1468 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:19,670 to get a shiny new ship I mean that's 1469 01:09:25,809 --> 01:09:23,210 that's just I don't get it and I don't 1470 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:25,819 know it's it's just it's it's horrible I 1471 01:09:33,460 --> 01:09:28,850 would hope that you know what these more 1472 01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:33,470 positive beings see in us of being a so 1473 01:09:36,940 --> 01:09:35,450 having so much potential I hope that it 1474 01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:36,950 comes through at some freaking time 1475 01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:38,480 because it sure has taken a heck of a 1476 01:09:44,019 --> 01:09:41,710 lot of time to get to the point of 1477 01:09:45,729 --> 01:09:44,029 others stepping forward and saying yeah 1478 01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:45,739 this is real this is happening it's like 1479 01:09:50,650 --> 01:09:48,319 okay then you know let's take the next 1480 01:09:53,170 --> 01:09:50,660 step let's let's be friends with the 1481 01:09:56,260 --> 01:09:53,180 universe let's let's all work towards 1482 01:09:58,960 --> 01:09:56,270 you know that's really kumbaya moment 1483 01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:58,970 already I just it just feels like it's 1484 01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:01,520 taking so long I I don't know whether 1485 01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:03,440 this is supposed to happen but I hope 1486 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:06,080 it's within my lifetime I mean is there 1487 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:07,610 light at the end of the tunnel with the 1488 01:10:12,850 --> 01:10:11,570 disclosure some official level well 1489 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:12,860 definitely you know like what you're 1490 01:10:16,690 --> 01:10:14,570 doing now with your radio show 1491 01:10:19,450 --> 01:10:16,700 you know the Outlander and so many 1492 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:19,460 similar shows where people are getting 1493 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:20,930 this information out there you know 1494 01:10:25,060 --> 01:10:22,130 you've got to think about it that it's 1495 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:25,070 only been you know 10 years or less that 1496 01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:26,930 we've had it actually had an alternative 1497 01:10:31,810 --> 01:10:29,840 media where the Internet has grown to 1498 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:31,820 the point where you know people can set 1499 01:10:35,740 --> 01:10:33,530 up their podcasts and set up their 1500 01:10:38,650 --> 01:10:35,750 YouTube channels and you know set up 1501 01:10:40,690 --> 01:10:38,660 blog sites and make an income and kind 1502 01:10:44,050 --> 01:10:40,700 of like get the message out and now the 1503 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:44,060 alternative media is just continuing to 1504 01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:46,610 grow it's it's and and I think that as 1505 01:10:51,970 --> 01:10:48,560 the alternative media continues to grow 1506 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:51,980 more and more people get information by 1507 01:10:56,590 --> 01:10:54,050 listening to your show than so many 1508 01:10:58,540 --> 01:10:56,600 hundreds of other kind of shows that are 1509 01:11:01,150 --> 01:10:58,550 kind of doing this kind of work in 1510 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:01,160 getting these alternative this 1511 01:11:05,530 --> 01:11:03,410 alternative information out there and 1512 01:11:06,940 --> 01:11:05,540 you know I think that that's going to 1513 01:11:10,210 --> 01:11:06,950 grow you know I mean we know now for 1514 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:10,220 example you know Alex Jones infowars.com 1515 01:11:16,270 --> 01:11:13,010 you know that's you know that's become 1516 01:11:17,979 --> 01:11:16,280 this kind of 800-pound gorilla now you 1517 01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:17,989 know the the kind of mainstream media 1518 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:20,239 are all running scared of Alex Jones 1519 01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:22,730 well eventually um you know a lot of 1520 01:11:26,860 --> 01:11:24,800 shows like yours and many others coast 1521 01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:26,870 to coast am you know they're going to 1522 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:29,840 become eight 800-pound gorillas and the 1523 01:11:33,580 --> 01:11:31,370 mainstream media be 1524 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:33,590 he's scared of you know what what you're 1525 01:11:41,740 --> 01:11:36,170 covering in your show next week and 1526 01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:41,750 safety fingers crossed that's the 1527 01:11:46,330 --> 01:11:44,510 direction and I think I don't think 1528 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:46,340 it'll take ten years I think it'll it'll 1529 01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:48,650 be a lot less than that because you know 1530 01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,040 that's where the people are going people 1531 01:11:55,630 --> 01:11:53,600 by and large are deserting the 1532 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:55,640 mainstream media and they're getting 1533 01:11:59,950 --> 01:11:57,770 their news for what's really happening 1534 01:12:02,590 --> 01:11:59,960 out there from the mainstream from the 1535 01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:02,600 alternative media and you know that 1536 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:04,640 means that eventually they're gonna find 1537 01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:07,610 their way to shows like yours yeah you 1538 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:10,310 know it is you know things are growing 1539 01:12:15,970 --> 01:12:14,570 with this entire network this show gets 1540 01:12:17,710 --> 01:12:15,980 about five hundred fifty thousand 1541 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:17,720 listeners other one I do on Tuesdays 1542 01:12:24,700 --> 01:12:20,810 about 900 thousand I mean it people are 1543 01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:24,710 looking for alternative access to what's 1544 01:12:29,290 --> 01:12:27,440 really going on but we do have those 1545 01:12:31,660 --> 01:12:29,300 folks that are like okay you told us a 1546 01:12:33,790 --> 01:12:31,670 cool story but where's the proof where's 1547 01:12:36,490 --> 01:12:33,800 the evidence who is this Hopkins guy you 1548 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:36,500 know how how can we hand that to the 1549 01:12:42,420 --> 01:12:38,570 folks for them to really allow it to 1550 01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:42,430 sink in their heads this is real people 1551 01:12:47,470 --> 01:12:45,110 well you know in in the book the Navy 1552 01:12:50,230 --> 01:12:47,480 secret space program book are having a 1553 01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:50,240 lot of documents in there you know 1554 01:12:55,180 --> 01:12:53,120 either from William Tompkins or from the 1555 01:12:59,050 --> 01:12:55,190 the National Archives Freedom of 1556 01:13:01,180 --> 01:12:59,060 Information Act and I thought maybe 1557 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:01,190 personnel that corroborate what William 1558 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:04,130 Thomas is said so you know people that 1559 01:13:08,190 --> 01:13:06,050 are that want that kind of hard evidence 1560 01:13:10,690 --> 01:13:08,200 that documentary evidence and that 1561 01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:10,700 corroborating kind of witness testimony 1562 01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:12,800 it's bad elbow 1563 01:13:20,170 --> 01:13:17,440 so yeah bill Tompkins he's really very 1564 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:20,180 helpful because you know he's got the 1565 01:13:25,090 --> 01:13:22,490 institutional history or he knows about 1566 01:13:27,820 --> 01:13:25,100 what institutions what companies what 1567 01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,830 Navy programs have been involved in this 1568 01:13:31,900 --> 01:13:29,600 going all the way back to the Second 1569 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:31,910 World War so yeah he's a great asset and 1570 01:13:35,230 --> 01:13:33,650 there are many others like him and you 1571 01:13:38,290 --> 01:13:35,240 know and I think as more and more people 1572 01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,300 come forward who have these are kind of 1573 01:13:42,610 --> 01:13:40,640 long associations with the military or 1574 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:42,620 corporations and share their information 1575 01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:45,170 and share whatever documents they have 1576 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:47,120 then you know I think you know we're 1577 01:13:52,330 --> 01:13:49,130 gonna reach a tipping point where people 1578 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:52,340 are going to start taking the what 1579 01:13:56,020 --> 01:13:53,690 they're already taking this subject 1580 01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:56,030 seriously but I think it'll just help a 1581 01:13:59,530 --> 01:13:57,770 lot of others that are kind of more nuts 1582 01:14:02,250 --> 01:13:59,540 and bolts to kind of like get their 1583 01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:02,260 attention that yeah this is very real 1584 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:05,510 amazing well I I'm hoping that it really 1585 01:14:10,090 --> 01:14:08,210 sinks into people's heads I'm I mean all 1586 01:14:12,490 --> 01:14:10,100 we can do is put it out there and let 1587 01:14:16,209 --> 01:14:12,500 them filter through it and cross our 1588 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:16,219 fingers what have you personally had any 1589 01:14:22,030 --> 01:14:19,610 issues happened to you because you have 1590 01:14:26,490 --> 01:14:22,040 touched on some pretty touchy yeah 1591 01:14:29,470 --> 01:14:26,500 topics well I haven't had anything 1592 01:14:31,930 --> 01:14:29,480 directly happened to me that you know 1593 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:31,940 explains why I'm doing this research you 1594 01:14:37,060 --> 01:14:35,330 know to me it was like in 2001 I just 1595 01:14:39,459 --> 01:14:37,070 had you know my alarm went off it was 1596 01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:39,469 just like at the time I was an assistant 1597 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:41,600 professor in the School of International 1598 01:14:48,250 --> 01:14:46,370 Service at American University and I I 1599 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:48,260 heard the disclosure project press 1600 01:14:54,729 --> 01:14:51,890 conference video that Steven Greer had 1601 01:14:57,250 --> 01:14:54,739 put together and I listened to that and 1602 01:15:00,430 --> 01:14:57,260 and I swear it was like I listened to 1603 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:00,440 these 21 witnesses and everything that 1604 01:15:04,510 --> 01:15:02,570 they said just resonated it's true I 1605 01:15:06,970 --> 01:15:04,520 just like I knew these people were 1606 01:15:09,610 --> 01:15:06,980 telling the truth and my life was 1607 01:15:11,709 --> 01:15:09,620 changed after watching that one video so 1608 01:15:16,150 --> 01:15:11,719 you know I think it was just you know 1609 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:16,160 just that was my time I was ready I just 1610 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:18,770 needed to have someone sound the bell 1611 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:21,290 and you know Steven Greer did that with 1612 01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:23,449 those witnesses that he could put 1613 01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:26,239 together and I've been researching it 1614 01:15:33,490 --> 01:15:30,080 ever since and really have been enjoying 1615 01:15:37,689 --> 01:15:33,500 this journey it is a it is a big rabbit 1616 01:15:40,810 --> 01:15:37,699 hole and it's still winding down into 1617 01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:40,820 these kind of winding dark corridors but 1618 01:15:44,530 --> 01:15:42,800 I'm enjoying it every step of the way I 1619 01:15:47,410 --> 01:15:44,540 feel as though I'm getting more and more 1620 01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,420 the truth of what's really going on it 1621 01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:49,280 sounds like you're really having fun 1622 01:15:58,720 --> 01:15:52,400 I mean it's deep it's serious but it is 1623 01:16:00,670 --> 01:15:58,730 delicious isn't it it is it's delicious 1624 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:00,680 and I'm not fine you know I've always 1625 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:02,810 loved puzzles you know one of the things 1626 01:16:07,810 --> 01:16:05,330 I remember when I was a kid I just loved 1627 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:07,820 puzzles and this is the puzzle the 1628 01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:09,530 beetle puzzle this is the mother of all 1629 01:16:14,590 --> 01:16:12,320 puzzles this one you know I I dig I dig 1630 01:16:17,470 --> 01:16:14,600 it I'm a puzzle person too and I've got 1631 01:16:19,660 --> 01:16:17,480 a crazy habit of buying weird Rubik's 1632 01:16:23,290 --> 01:16:19,670 cubes and I can't solve not one of them 1633 01:16:28,930 --> 01:16:23,300 I think I just like to torture myself 1634 01:16:31,570 --> 01:16:28,940 but anyways I'm not kidding I do but if 1635 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:31,580 there is one thing or a couple of things 1636 01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:33,290 that you would like people to take away 1637 01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:36,560 from what it is you're presenting what 1638 01:16:42,670 --> 01:16:38,830 would it be 1639 01:16:45,340 --> 01:16:42,680 III think it's always important to try 1640 01:16:47,710 --> 01:16:45,350 and find a balance in terms of like you 1641 01:16:49,420 --> 01:16:47,720 know gang down that rabbit hole you know 1642 01:16:52,210 --> 01:16:49,430 finding out what's going on in there 1643 01:16:57,580 --> 01:16:52,220 which projects going on and but to also 1644 01:16:59,860 --> 01:16:57,590 develop some kind of meditation practice 1645 01:17:03,340 --> 01:16:59,870 some prayer practice so that you can 1646 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:03,350 connect to this kind of consciousness 1647 01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:05,090 field around us because I think that's 1648 01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:08,020 the key you know the more we're able to 1649 01:17:13,810 --> 01:17:10,400 connect with this consciousness field 1650 01:17:17,170 --> 01:17:13,820 the more were able to empathically feel 1651 01:17:19,810 --> 01:17:17,180 another person just connect with them 1652 01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:19,820 empathically but better able we're going 1653 01:17:25,090 --> 01:17:23,120 to be in terms of understanding the big 1654 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:25,100 puzzle the big picture of what's going 1655 01:17:30,430 --> 01:17:27,890 on and then when it comes to you know 1656 01:17:34,690 --> 01:17:30,440 dealing with extraterrestrials I think 1657 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:34,700 we are going to be able to deal with 1658 01:17:38,050 --> 01:17:36,050 them as equals because you know 1659 01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:38,060 essentially you know to me it's like you 1660 01:17:42,460 --> 01:17:40,150 know we got home ground advantage 1661 01:17:43,660 --> 01:17:42,470 because in terms of dealing with extra 1662 01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:43,670 trestles we got home ground advantage 1663 01:17:49,390 --> 01:17:46,910 because Gaia this planet is a living 1664 01:17:51,730 --> 01:17:49,400 breathing entity and we can empathically 1665 01:17:53,020 --> 01:17:51,740 connect with her much more deeply and 1666 01:17:56,170 --> 01:17:53,030 much more powerfully than any 1667 01:17:58,750 --> 01:17:56,180 extraterrestrial visitors so when we 1668 01:18:00,820 --> 01:17:58,760 connect with Gaia we are able to tap 1669 01:18:02,890 --> 01:18:00,830 into our home ground advantage and we 1670 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:02,900 can deal with the extraterrestrials not 1671 01:18:06,790 --> 01:18:04,730 just as equals but as actually 1672 01:18:08,590 --> 01:18:06,800 spokespersons for the planet and say 1673 01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:08,600 what are you guys doing here 1674 01:18:12,820 --> 01:18:10,490 are you helping humanity are you helping 1675 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:12,830 the planet and you know if maybe we 1676 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:14,810 we write them but if you don't have that 1677 01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:16,250 connection to the planet you're just 1678 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:17,510 kind of like you know you'll like this 1679 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:21,410 leaf in the breeze you know the new with 1680 01:18:25,900 --> 01:18:23,690 these beings that kind of come in with 1681 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:25,910 their shining starships and you know 1682 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:28,730 impressive mental telepathic abilities 1683 01:18:32,590 --> 01:18:30,410 you don't know but you know when you're 1684 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:32,600 connected with the planet and you can 1685 01:18:38,050 --> 01:18:34,690 impassively connect with the other 1686 01:18:39,460 --> 01:18:38,060 people on this on this planet then you 1687 01:18:41,530 --> 01:18:39,470 know you're you you got home ground 1688 01:18:44,500 --> 01:18:41,540 advantage and you can go in there and 1689 01:18:45,850 --> 01:18:44,510 you can speak to them as an authority so 1690 01:18:48,490 --> 01:18:45,860 that's what I would encourage every 1691 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:48,500 listener to do I like the way you think 1692 01:18:56,590 --> 01:18:53,090 I really feel that we will get there we 1693 01:19:01,240 --> 01:18:56,600 will we will reach that threshold of 1694 01:19:03,700 --> 01:19:01,250 being able to join what is it the the 1695 01:19:07,210 --> 01:19:03,710 Federation of Planets or whatever people 1696 01:19:09,790 --> 01:19:07,220 have these different names for it and to 1697 01:19:12,340 --> 01:19:09,800 evolve and to get it and to be kind to 1698 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:12,350 one another and and hopefully our boys 1699 01:19:17,380 --> 01:19:14,810 out there in space who are going way way 1700 01:19:20,140 --> 01:19:17,390 out there aren't getting ourselves into 1701 01:19:21,820 --> 01:19:20,150 trouble are they like Star Trek Kirk 1702 01:19:24,610 --> 01:19:21,830 didn't always make the best decision 1703 01:19:26,620 --> 01:19:24,620 sometimes and he would get into battles 1704 01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:26,630 are they having anything like that going 1705 01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:30,710 on up there I'm curious oh yes there's 1706 01:19:34,990 --> 01:19:32,510 definitely a lot of that going on 1707 01:19:37,060 --> 01:19:35,000 there's a lot of kind of space battles 1708 01:19:39,730 --> 01:19:37,070 out there there's a lot of bad things 1709 01:19:41,530 --> 01:19:39,740 that are happening out there you know 1710 01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:41,540 but I think it's because you know these 1711 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:44,210 people that are part of these programs a 1712 01:19:48,610 --> 01:19:45,530 lot of them are not very kind of 1713 01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:48,620 spiritual they're not very you know I'm 1714 01:19:53,890 --> 01:19:51,230 trying to be empathic and so you know we 1715 01:19:55,870 --> 01:19:53,900 are the ones that have to you know 1716 01:19:57,730 --> 01:19:55,880 getting the into the positions of 1717 01:20:00,340 --> 01:19:57,740 authority so that you know this kind of 1718 01:20:03,070 --> 01:20:00,350 more empathic is you know just be kind 1719 01:20:05,710 --> 01:20:03,080 and respectful and civil to one another 1720 01:20:07,930 --> 01:20:05,720 you know that kind of attitude that that 1721 01:20:09,970 --> 01:20:07,940 is what needs to percolate into these 1722 01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:09,980 secret space programs and into the 1723 01:20:15,340 --> 01:20:11,840 hierarchy and that and there comes when 1724 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:15,350 people like you and your listeners that 1725 01:20:20,260 --> 01:20:17,690 you're able to kind of like have some 1726 01:20:22,090 --> 01:20:20,270 kind of authority and have a voice in 1727 01:20:23,410 --> 01:20:22,100 this sense and to do this we need to 1728 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:23,420 have transparency we need to have 1729 01:20:28,930 --> 01:20:26,690 disclosure and then our value system can 1730 01:20:33,970 --> 01:20:28,940 you late into the way these secret space 1731 01:20:36,700 --> 01:20:33,980 programs operate yeah I'm hoping they 1732 01:20:38,770 --> 01:20:36,710 stop sending the butt heads out there 1733 01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:38,780 that will keep budding other people's or 1734 01:20:45,459 --> 01:20:42,110 other beings heads then make some 1735 01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:45,469 progress I want people to check out dr. 1736 01:20:50,580 --> 01:20:48,080 Salle's newest book US Navy's secret 1737 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:50,590 space program and Nordic 1738 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:52,489 extraterrestrial alliance that was 1739 01:20:59,470 --> 01:20:55,010 released in March his website exile 1740 01:21:01,810 --> 01:20:59,480 politics dot o-r-g you know this this 1741 01:21:03,580 --> 01:21:01,820 has been very insightful I have got to 1742 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:03,590 have you back on there's so many more 1743 01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:06,650 questions to ask so much more to discuss 1744 01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:08,960 I cannot thank you enough for coming on 1745 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:11,210 the show this evening this is a lot of 1746 01:21:16,780 --> 01:21:14,690 fun well thank you Heidi for inviting me 1747 01:21:19,630 --> 01:21:16,790 and thanks for all that you do to bring 1748 01:21:21,459 --> 01:21:19,640 this information out we are trying we 1749 01:21:24,490 --> 01:21:21,469 are so trying hold on the line for me 1750 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:24,500 and I'm gonna close out the show oh my 1751 01:21:30,010 --> 01:21:27,250 goodness this this was a mouthful of 1752 01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:30,020 information that it's just honestly left 1753 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:33,070 me kind of speechless at times it's like 1754 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:36,530 my head is absolutely exploding um you 1755 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:38,449 know you guys you could catch me here 1756 01:21:41,530 --> 01:21:40,250 every Friday a p.m. central 9 p.m. 1757 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:41,540 Eastern you've been listening to knee 1758 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:43,610 Heidi house the outlander remembering 1759 01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:45,770 always if it's weird we're here good